Pope Francis

[Nonlinear FC]

I heard yesterday that 4/5 of the cardinals doing the voting were put in place by Francis, so...

[degenerasian]

I don’t give enough of a crap to have too strong of an opinion but yeah Francis was about as good of a pope as you’re gonna get in the modern Catholic Church. If the world is lucky the cardinals elevate someone with mostly the same outlook.

As bad as the modern Catholic Church is, my bet is it's the best version the world has seen. Which is ... not great.

Exactly. That was kind of my implied point. Compared to Francis, Saint John Paul II was Attila the Hun.

Yeah. And when you read about the earlier Popes, like hundreds of years ago, they make SJPII look like a saint.

Pope Alexander VI must be the worse, they made a tv show starting Jeremy Irons, The Borgias.

[sancarlos]

I don’t give enough of a crap to have too strong of an opinion but yeah Francis was about as good of a pope as you’re gonna get in the modern Catholic Church. If the world is lucky the cardinals elevate someone with mostly the same outlook.

As bad as the modern Catholic Church is, my bet is it's the best version the world has seen. Which is ... not great.

Exactly. That was kind of my implied point. Compared to Francis, Saint John Paul II was Attila the Hun.

Yeah. And when you read about the earlier Popes, like hundreds of years ago, they make SJPII look like a saint.

Pope Alexander VI must be the worst, they made a tv show starting Jeremy Irons, The Borgias.

He may be the worst. But if you know your European history for the Middle Ages/Renaissance eras, it is a horse race!