NCAA Football 2024 - it goes to 12!

Post by **brian** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:39 pm

govmentchedda wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:34 pm My understanding of the current, newly changed, cost to jump from FCS to FBS is in the 8 figures level. Unless that changes I don't see anyone making that jump any time soon.

Pac 12 has a $250M war chest and even if Sac State (or Montana or N Dakota State) goes to MWC they’ll have at least $100M in money from Pac 12 to help pay down the costs. MWC is going to have no choice but to add from FCS most likely.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:57 pm

Shame that UNM hasn't been a name I've seen mentioned as part of the new PAC-12, but they really don't throw money at anything but basketball and I've read they're way behind in terms of athletics funding.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:27 am

brian wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:39 pm
govmentchedda wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:34 pm My understanding of the current, newly changed, cost to jump from FCS to FBS is in the 8 figures level. Unless that changes I don't see anyone making that jump any time soon.
Pac 12 has a $250M war chest and even if Sac State (or Montana or N Dakota State) goes to MWC they’ll have at least $100M in money from Pac 12 to help pay down the costs. MWC is going to have no choice but to add from FCS most likely.

Deck chairs on the Titanic, which would be very much in line with how the PAC has operated for the last decade.

Post by **brian** » Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:58 pm

That ACC backyard brawl of Stanford vs Syracuse is on tonight.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:02 pm

brian wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:58 pm That ACC backyard brawl of Stanford vs Syracuse is on tonight.

ACC powerhouse, Stanford Cardinal. Undefeated in league play.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:17 pm

Is anyone else having trouble with ESPN notifications? I don’t think I’ve gotten any for months.

And I have notifications on in both Settings and the ESPN App.

Post by **Shirley** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:26 pm

James Madison just put up 53 points on UNC in Chapel Hill. In the first half!

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:33 pm

It just means more in the Sun Belt.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:03 pm

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:03 pm

Butch Davis had the thing rolling better than anyone since mack but then they got all high and mighty and brought back joe Biden and now we just celebrate the sunshine and wait for the blue and white game

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:03 pm

Rutgers gets the program’s first ever win in Blacksburg.

Post by **brian** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:16 pm

New conference, same USC.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:39 pm

I mean, that's gonna go down as one of the best wins in Big House history.

But, wow. If USC doesn't allow those 3 big plays, that game is a 14 point spread the other way.

Now, with that said... Really really proud of that team for keeping their shit together after the Donovan fumble. That really could've been a dagger.

Now the Orji offense can settle in and hopefully be a little more dynamic in the passing game.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:43 pm

One thing I noticed over the summer and going into camp... I think this team "likes" Orji. There were a lot of positive comments about him and my hunch is that starting that other dude kind of fucked up the team's psyche.

Even last year, there was a lot of feelings-ball going on (self-inflicted, sure) and they tended to like rallying against an Us vs. Them vibe. Slightly different circumstance, but felt like this team was rallying around Orji today.

Will Johnson being hurt fucking sucks. I hope it's nothing season-ending. He got rolled on that missed tackle and my guess is a fucked up shoulder.

ETA - Sherrone says it was just a stinger.

Now we just need Colston Loveland to get healthy.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:57 pm

Hard to believe Michigan won with only 32 yards of passing.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:26 pm

Post by **brian** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:18 pm

Congrats to Notre Dame on moving to 1-1 in the MAC.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:43 pm

Shirley wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:26 pm James Madison just put up 53 points on UNC in Chapel Hill. In the first half!

One of JMU's freshman is a kid I coached (and drove to games/practice) for a bunch of years. Lightning fast and really good kid. He was one of the last cuts from the JV soccer team as a freshman (spring sport for public schools in VA). Decided to play football and run track). It worked out really well for him (2nd team all state and 3x national qualifier in hurdles).
https://jmusports.com/sports/football/r ... sele/22254

I think his older brother walked onto the Clemson football team this past year and played in the spring game but does not appear to be on the roster this fall.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:51 pm

Cal loses to FSU in the ACC.

I was hoping my schools could start a collective 12-0.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:01 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:51 pm Cal loses to FSU in the ACC.

I was hoping my schools could start a collective 12-0.

They should have won. Dominated the yardage, but the kicker missed a couple field goal attempts.

Post by **Shirley** » Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:41 am

Steve of phpBB wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:51 pm Cal loses to FSU in the ACC.

I was hoping my schools could start a collective 12-0.

Cal has always been an ACC doormat

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:05 pm

So, just tooling around on The Athletic and they have an article on CFP bubble teams. Quick read, but down at the bottom in the Keep an Eye On section of teams, both Army and Navy make the list.

Which, you know, pretty far down the list (behind folks like Liberty, Boise St. UNLV, etc.)

But here's the funny little What If... Let's say one or both of these guys can beat Notre Dame and make it to the Army-Navy game undefeated. (And you look at the schedules and... Not completely bonkers.)

Here's the rub: The Army-Navy game is on Dec. 14... The CFP selection show is on Dec. 8... That might set up a very weird set of circumstances.

CHAOS! I always root for chaos.... Unless it fucks with my team.

Post by **brian** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:52 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:05 pm So, just tooling around on The Athletic and they have an article on CFP bubble teams. Quick read, but down at the bottom in the Keep an Eye On section of teams, both Army and Navy make the list.

Which, you know, pretty far down the list (behind folks like Liberty, Boise St. UNLV, etc.)

But here's the funny little What If... Let's say one or both of these guys can beat Notre Dame and make it to the Army-Navy game undefeated. (And you look at the schedules and... Not completely bonkers.)

Here's the rub: The Army-Navy game is on Dec. 14... The CFP selection show is on Dec. 8... That might set up a very weird set of circumstances.

CHAOS! I always root for chaos.... Unless it fucks with my team.

This happened a decade or so ago with Navy though that was only for the G5 NYD bowl so the stakes are quite a bit higher this time. I have to think they have a contingency for this situation.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:24 pm

I mean, maybe they have a plan?

What would that plan actually be? Do you post an "if, then" scenario on Dec 8? Like, if Navy goes 12-0 they get the #12 slot over (insert other undefeated G5 team).

I know it's a silly hypo at this point to burn too much time on...

Post by **brian** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:31 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:24 pm I mean, maybe they have a plan?

What would that plan actually be? Do you post an "if, then" scenario on Dec 8? Like, if Navy goes 12-0 they get the #12 slot over (insert other undefeated G5 team).

I know it's a silly hypo at this point to burn too much time on...

That’s what they did last time. The field is set by committee so it’s easy enough theoretically. If Navy wins they’re #12. If not it’s UNLV (or whoever obvs). Sucks a bit to have to wait it out but any team in that situation is practicing still anyway and can prep for seed #5 and their bowl opponent.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:38 pm

the game is not considered at all for the selection process

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:44 pm

Huzzah, thanks bronto.

Fascinating, really. Looks like the did lobby, initially, for the "if, then" scenario, which would've left the #5 seed having to prepare for 2 teams.

Seems like the right decision, given how many eyeballs they get for that standalone game and the fact that the odds of one of the service academies goes undefeated is relatively slim. But, mostly... $$$

Post by **brian** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:45 pm

I guess that makes more sense though it’s gonna get awkward if whomever gets upset in the Army-Navy game.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:48 pm

Sorry, bri, I somehow missed your post.

I have a limited brain, so that relatively simple solution seemed complicated.

But, still, you go back to that being kind of unfair to the #5 seed.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:51 pm

Maybe if college football wasn’t run by so many landlocked state universities, they would be more worried about pissing off Navy

Post by **brian** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:52 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:48 pm Sorry, bri, I somehow missed your post.

I have a limited brain, so that relatively simple solution seemed complicated.

But, still, you go back to that being kind of unfair to the #5 seed.

Yeah the contingency is too convoluted I guess so makes sense they don’t count it. It also doesn’t count towards AAC standings/title game too so whatever.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:56 pm

Rex wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:51 pm Maybe if college football wasn’t run by so many landlocked state universities, they would be more worried about pissing off Navy

Elicited a chuckle. Solid take.

Post by **brian** » Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:36 pm

TIL BYU has a Jewish QB.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:52 am

UNLV QB, who has helped lead the team to a 3-0 start, is sitting out/redshirting the rest of the season because folks didn't fulfil NIL promises.

Don't blame him, frankly. This is now a straight up business and if folks aren't getting paid, this is the result.

Also a good example of the continued Wild West nature of all this. Sign a damn contract ffs.

Post by **Shirley** » Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:47 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:52 am UNLV QB, who has helped lead the team to a 3-0 start, is sitting out/redshirting the rest of the season because folks didn't fulfil NIL promises.

Don't blame him, frankly. This is now a straight up business and if folks aren't getting paid, this is the result.

Also a good example of the continued Wild West nature of all this. Sign a damn contract ffs.

Wow. Is that the first contractual holdout in college?

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:57 am

brian wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:36 pm TIL BYU has a Jewish QB.

But in Provo he's still a gentile.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:58 am

Significantly, the UNLV contract wasn’t in writing.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:09 pm

sancarlos wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:58 am Significantly, the UNLV contract wasn’t in writing.

And it's costing UNLV a lot more than whatever the agreement said he would receive, regardless of whether it was written or not.

Post by **brian** » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:16 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:09 pm
sancarlos wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:58 am Significantly, the UNLV contract wasn’t in writing.
And it's costing UNLV a lot more than whatever the agreement said he would receive, regardless of whether it was written or not.

I have a feeling Dana White or the Fertitta’s or one of the billionaire donors comes up with the money before Saturday.

Post by **brian** » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:16 pm

That said, UNLV gonna UNLV.