mister d wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 6:10 pm
8 years is obviously too long but I like Fried more than any of the other SPs out there, including Burnes. No complaints.
(Bonus is that while pitchers are obviously more fragile than hitters, they’re also easier to bury if they’ve gone bad.)
Deal makes sense if they start trading younger pitching to fill the holes in the lineup.
Otherwise, an 8 year deal for a pitcher who will turn 31 next month. Yikes.
mister d wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:54 pm
Yeah, I'm really surprised they included Teel. Given Wong's exceptionally shitty defensive metrics, I would have assumed he was out in 2025.
Cost of doing business. But man there’s a dearth of backup catchers this year. The O’s just signed Gary freakin Sanchez the other day to backup Rutschman, which means they better put Tony Basallo in bubble wrap (and out of any trade talks this off-season)
brian wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:43 pm
This is one of those cases where anyone trying to say “the Yankees were smart” or the “the Yankees were stupid” not to match (assuming that was an option) is full of shit. It’s such a long, hefty contract and Soto is such a unique talent that it’s gonna take years to determine if either one of those ends up being true.
I think a safe argument can be made that the Yankees got played. You don’t need hindsight to see that.
Say more.
They made a move and it almost brought them home their first World Series in 15 years. I certainly never thought Soto was guaranteed to stay.
brian wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:43 pm
This is one of those cases where anyone trying to say “the Yankees were smart” or the “the Yankees were stupid” not to match (assuming that was an option) is full of shit. It’s such a long, hefty contract and Soto is such a unique talent that it’s gonna take years to determine if either one of those ends up being true.
I think a safe argument can be made that the Yankees got played. You don’t need hindsight to see that.
Say more.
They made a move and it almost brought them home their first World Series in 15 years. I certainly never thought Soto was guaranteed to stay.
No regerts.
Sure but you're thinking pragmatically as a fan. I think the Yankee brass was stunned.
brian wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:43 pm
This is one of those cases where anyone trying to say “the Yankees were smart” or the “the Yankees were stupid” not to match (assuming that was an option) is full of shit. It’s such a long, hefty contract and Soto is such a unique talent that it’s gonna take years to determine if either one of those ends up being true.
I think a safe argument can be made that the Yankees got played. You don’t need hindsight to see that.
Say more.
They made a move and it almost brought them home their first World Series in 15 years. I certainly never thought Soto was guaranteed to stay.
No regerts.
Sure but you're thinking pragmatically as a fan. I think the Yankee brass was stunned.
garyclark wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:05 pm
If you're right about the Yankees feeling played, it bodes well for Roki Sasaki.
I think the Yankees, as an organization anyway, insists upon itself. I don't mean to take the line from Family Guy where they talk about The Godfather (I think), but man alive the exceptionalism: no hair touching the collar, no facial hair, no alternate jerseys/uniforms (including City Connects). It used to be that the Yankees were a bunch of party hearty all-time greats, but ever since GSIII realized he couldn't beat on hippie ass he watched demonstrating in the streets in the late 60s and early 70s, he went and bought the Yankees for pennies on the dollar from CBS and implemented those rules as a way of thumbing his nose to the anti-establishment.
(that felt good)
Anyway Oh yeah, the cost of spending a year on Soto was it cost them Michael King, who they then had to go out and buy a $218m LH version of a year after he departed.
garyclark wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:05 pm
If you're right about the Yankees feeling played, it bodes well for Roki Sasaki.
I think the Yankees, as an organization anyway, insists upon itself. I don't mean to take the line from Family Guy where they talk about The Godfather (I think), but man alive the exceptionalism: no hair touching the collar, no facial hair, no alternate jerseys/uniforms (including City Connects). It used to be that the Yankees were a bunch of party hearty all-time greats, but ever since GSIII realized he couldn't beat on hippie ass he watched demonstrating in the streets in the late 60s and early 70s, he went and bought the Yankees for pennies on the dollar from CBS and implemented those rules as a way of thumbing his nose to the anti-establishment.
(that felt good)
Anyway Oh yeah, the cost of spending a year on Soto was it cost them Michael King, who they then had to go out and buy a $218m LH version of a year after he departed.
But seriously, Sasaki's gonna get paid.
Completely agree on the Steinbrenner stuff. They would never have created a dynasty to win four WS in five years had he not been banned from operating the team. And the stuff he did to Winfield was terrible, and likely illegal.
But back to the actual Yankees today, not the history, the Yankees got one year of Soto for two years of King. Every team in baseball does that. Every time.
I actually think Sasaki's going to the Dodgers. But maybe if the Yankees need to try to flex their muscles, the Dodgers won't get him for a song.
1. Sasaki won’t get paid, right? He takes a minor league deal then hits early free agency.
2. I don’t care about Michael King because his injury risk was and is off the charts. If you get even one year of Juan Soto for that, so be it. And he got his shit kicked in in the NLCS. Pretend he did that as a Yankee and he’s a (29 year old, remember) choker or whatever and then we can all be on the same page.
3. I like Fried more than Crochet and the fact that Boston losing out to us cost them Teel and Montgomery is really great. If the guy who before last year never threw 70+ innings as a season including college is secretly now durable, great bet, they won. If not they fucked up an insane future lineup spinning out because they wouldn’t just pay money.
4. Still a net bad offseason yay ha ha ha.
A_B wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 2:54 pmand henceforth I imagine I’ll be Old …we…t spot AB.
Sasaki ain’t playing in New York at least not on this initial deal. Don’t know where he will go but doesn’t sound like he wants to go somewhere with an antagonistic media presence.
mister d wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:37 pm... and I think my youngest might be a serious flight risk the same way I bailed on the Mets for trading Dykstra.
She hung in with Soto going to the other team she could logically follow. The NJ Devil mascot went to her school the same day and had everyone chanting "Devils" and she told me that he was cool but she refused to chant. She has shown her strength. Now the Yankees just traded her favorite player.
A_B wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 2:54 pmand henceforth I imagine I’ll be Old …we…t spot AB.
mister d wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:37 pm... and I think my youngest might be a serious flight risk the same way I bailed on the Mets for trading Dykstra.
She hung in with Soto going to the other team she could logically follow. The NJ Devil mascot went to her school the same day and had everyone chanting "Devils" and she told me that he was cool but she refused to chant. She has shown her strength. Now the Yankees just traded her favorite player.
Delaware's daughter during the NJ Devils assembly:
My avatar corresponds on my place in the Swamp posting list with the all-time Home Run list. Tied with Mel Ott at Number 25 is Miguel Cabrera at 511.
mister d wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:41 pm
Don't get that Houston trade even a little.
Don't get the Reds or anyone else not effin' beating that return too. It's why I've stopped ever really paying attention to the hot stove, much of it makes no fucking sense anymore.
mister d wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:32 pm
Net zero Cody trade.
(Even assuming the opt-in and me suspicious Bellinger is built for NY, this is a no-brainer.)
Fantastic move on paper. Gives Judge less to do on defense, and theoretically makes him less prone to injury. Gives them flexibility as a 1B as well. Athletic, fast, short porch.
The question is: when he does something stupid, will he be able to recover in the media? Or if he hits .185 for a half season, will he survive the fans' wrath?
garyclark wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:08 pmThe question is: when he does something stupid, will he be able to recover in the media? Or if he hits .185 for a half season, will he survive the fans' wrath?
Definitely huge Joey Gallo risk. Also according to my brother Giancarlo used to date Bellinger’s wife? That’s a weird one.
A_B wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 2:54 pmand henceforth I imagine I’ll be Old …we…t spot AB.
garyclark wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:08 pmThe question is: when he does something stupid, will he be able to recover in the media? Or if he hits .185 for a half season, will he survive the fans' wrath?
Definitely huge Joey Gallo risk. Also according to my brother Giancarlo used to date Bellinger’s wife? That’s a weird one.
