Masters 2013

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:08 pm

IT'S A GOOD TIME TO BE AGGRESSIVE

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:27 pm

All right, out of the fucking way, Leishman.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:33 pm

Rex wrote:All right, out of the fucking way, Leishman.

He needs to make that birdie to give him some cushion.

AND...no dice.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:13 pm

Hmmm. I could be convinced that 6 under will lead at this point.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:15 pm

So Guan was notified he was out of position on #10. Warned later, and got a slow play penalty on 17. I think that's fairly reasonable.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:18 pm

As of right now, only 30 players would miss the cut.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:33 pm

Tiger on the 15th. I've never seen that before; brilliant wedge in to the green, hits the flag stick, bounces into the water. Unfuckinglucky.

Post by **Shirley** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:36 pm

That was one of the unluckiest golf shots I've ever seen.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:40 pm

Really. How often do you say that a shot would have been brilliant if only it had been ever-so-slightly less accurate?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:20 pm

i won my top-amateur bet, woohoo!

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:51 pm

AB_skin_test wrote:So Guan was notified he was out of position on #10. Warned later, and got a slow play penalty on 17. I think that's fairly reasonable.

I agree.

Cam Cole, Vancouver Sun, certainly does not agree:

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/golf ... unishment/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Square Rob · Post by **Square Rob** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:22 am

Tiger may be DQ'd from his drop after he hit the stick. In his press conference he said he dropped two yards back from where he hit the first one when he only was allowed a yard.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:49 am

I thought the issue was that he had to line up with the spot where the ball last went into the hazard. It seemed to kick pretty hard to the left, at least it appeared that way on TV.

Square Rob · Post by **Square Rob** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:53 am

You can drop any where back along that line, or from immediately behind where it first crossed, or as near as possible to where you originally took the shot. The issue is whether he was 'near as possible'.

Square Rob · Post by **Square Rob** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:54 am

I bet he's DQ'd. They don't want it to seem that they are playing favorites, so once the question is raised, I feel if there's doubt, he's out.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:37 am

For what it's worth, on the replay it looks like his second shot was about an arm's length away from the divot that presumably was his first shot.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:24 am

I dont think they have enough evidence to dq

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:34 am

AB_skin_test wrote:I dont think they have enough evidence to dq

That's what I think. Do they have a video or a photo of him actually dropping? Or any other angles ?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:37 am

Also, I always thought the club length was the rule of thumb when it comes to stuff like this.

Two shot penalty for Tiger. Okay then.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:37 am

Do unto Tiger as you would hope the SEC and Justice Department would do unto you. The ANGC credo, from now on.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:44 am

But I think it's fine. I mean, Robert Garrigus could have moved his ball 20 times yesterday and nobody would know.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:57 am

Until everyones every ahot is televised then callers should be a moo point.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:59 am

Faldo "the rule says 'as close as possible'......the thing about our rules is that they are very black and white"

Uh no, Nick. Every golfer apparently needs to spend a year in law school.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:09 am

Not surprisingly, nobody on TV seems capable of distinguishing between rules that are subject to interpretation and rules that are not subject to interpretation. The rule against signing an incorrect scorecard is (or was) not subject to interpretation. The rule requiring a drop as close as possible is not only hopelessly subjective but also extremely difficult to prove even where there is TV evidence.

Yard of Junk · Post by **Yard of Junk** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:26 am

ESPN shows the location difference between the two shots.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:45 pm

Rex wrote:Not surprisingly, nobody on TV seems capable of distinguishing between rules that are subject to interpretation and rules that are not subject to interpretation. The rule against signing an incorrect scorecard is (or was) not subject to interpretation. The rule requiring a drop as close as possible is not only hopelessly subjective but also extremely difficult to prove even where there is TV evidence.

The talking heads on TV also do not know the difference in rules between a red hazard and a yellow hazard; yesterday they gave the yellow rules for red and the red rules for yellow on at least two occasions, one of which was the failed explanation of Tiger's options after the flagstick incident.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:04 pm

http://www.tsn.ca/golf/story/?id=420647" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The one issue that I have is that the rules got changed along the way. Or at least the interpretation got changed. Tiger wasn't given a penalty at the time; the rules gerbils decided he did nothing wrong, and then, after the fact, they changed their mind.

Not the first, or worst, time something this pansy-ass has happened. The PGA cost Dustin Johnson a major by an (arguably) silly ruling at the 2010 PGA Championship.

Augusta National took the blame by saying its rules committee reviewed a video before Woods finished his round Friday and determined his drop was within the rules.

Then they should live with that decision. If it's your fault, it's your fault. Man up to it.

The club said a television viewer prompted the review.

This is fucking bullshit. And not the first time it happened. That nonsense has to stop.

kranepool · Post by **kranepool** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:06 pm

Faldo is encouraging Woods to sack up and quit.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:09 pm

kranepool wrote:Faldo is encouraging Woods to sack up and quit.

What's that on? Golf Channel?

Why should Tiger withdraw? Because some pretentious twunt from England thinks he should?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:35 pm

Square Rob wrote:Tiger may be DQ'd from his drop after he hit the stick. In his press conference he said he dropped two yards back from where he hit the first one when he only was allowed a yard.

I'm surprised he said this.. or didn't know the rules? Because the committee has deemed it ok until he said this.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:50 pm

Tim Clark. There's another guy who only shows up for the Masters. Clark and Cabrera are the Eckstein and Kennedy of golf.

Post by **Shirley** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:52 pm

Yard of Junk wrote:ESPN shows the location difference between the two shots.

Holy shit. Look at that! What a cheater. Why, that was an entire stride away from his previous spot. Everyone knows a 118 yard shot from a perfect lie is completely different than a 117 yard shot from a perfect lie.

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:53 pm

Rex wrote:Tim Clark. There's another guy who only shows up for the Masters.

Most of the time he doesn't even show up for that.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:39 pm

Shirley wrote:Everyone knows a 118 yard shot from a perfect lie is completely different than a 117 yard shot from a perfect lie.

Hey, the first time around, from 117 yards, he hit the ball 117 yards and hit the flag. If he hits that shot from 118 yards out, it ends up right next to the hole.

(Actually, where did his next shot go? Was it close enough to tap in?)

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:41 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:(Actually, where did his next shot go? Was it close enough to tap in?)

Within a couple of feet. As close to a tap-in as you see at Augusta. Effectively, he hit an identical shot; itself quite a feat.

Yard of Junk · Post by **Yard of Junk** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:43 pm

"Moving Day" appears to be misnamed this afternoon. No one really making a move.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:56 pm

Rory is making a move to the dentist chair

Scottie · Post by **Scottie** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:15 pm

Snedeker also played the kid in The Outlaw Josey Wales.

kranepool · Post by **kranepool** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:16 pm

Scottie wrote:
kranepool wrote:Faldo is encouraging Woods to sack up and quit.
What's that on? Golf Channel?

Why should Tiger withdraw? Because some pretentious twunt from England thinks he should?

Faldo reverses course.

Man, I hate flip-floppers.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:57 am

The kid need to par 17 and 18 in order to break 300.

73+75+77+74=299 would be a remarkable score.