The Official NFC Wildcard Games Thread

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:28 pm

Post by **brian** » Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:33 pm

He can hold a grudge apparently.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:45 pm

As it turns out, both matchups conjure up memories of the worst playoff game in NFL history.

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howard · Post by **howard** » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:14 pm

Rex wrote:As it turns out, both matchups conjure up memories of the worst playoff game in NFL history.

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The four cornerbacks in that game: Lem Barney, Dick LeBeau; Mel Renfro and Herb Adderley. All four in Canton. No wonder D dominated.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:17 pm

Jerloma wrote:Who is Barry Church?

Don't disrespect the Quips like that, Golden Tate!

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:36 pm

Rex wrote:As it turns out, both matchups conjure up memories of the worst playoff game in NFL history.
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To my regret, I remember this well. It was a Herman Weaver punt fest.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:15 pm

Rex wrote:As it turns out, both matchups conjure up memories of the worst playoff game in NFL history.

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Oh God - that is just awful. Craig Morton was the winning QB - 4/18 for 38 yards and a pickoff.

And it always happens this year - I end up betting for the sake of betting. $50 on the Cardinals +6.5. If it was in my confidence pool, I may have picked them at the 3 slot...

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:38 pm

DC47 wrote:
Rex wrote:As it turns out, both matchups conjure up memories of the worst playoff game in NFL history.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/b ... 260dal.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
To my regret, I remember this well. It was a Herman Weaver punt fest.

Thunderfoot!

What a great nickname.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:04 pm

Selection committee should have put the Eagles in.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:09 pm

Arizona needs to hire a professional punter.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:09 pm

Both these teams suck. Though at least the Cardinals have an excuse.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:48 pm

This is one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:49 pm

brian wrote:This is one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen.

That's why we bet on them - to make them exciting.

Don't tell me about injuries - Cam Newton is one of the most over rated players I have ever seen.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:50 pm

brian wrote:This is one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen.

Entire game changed on the muffed punt.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:50 pm

Pruitt wrote:
brian wrote:This is one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen.
That's why we bet on them - to make them exciting.

Don't tell me about injuries - Cam Newton is one of the most over rated players I have ever seen.

More than Cutler?

More than Hoculi?

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:51 pm

Pruitt wrote:
brian wrote:This is one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen.
That's why we bet on them - to make them exciting.

Don't tell me about injuries - Cam Newton is one of the most over rated players I have ever seen.

Yeah he's really inconsistent at best. Once he loses a step running the ball (inevitable as he gets older) he's going to be useless

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:57 pm

By the way that replay was a perfect example of why the NFL should (at a minimum) mandate there's a fixed camera on both goallines.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:58 pm

Carolina can win this game without Newton throwing another pass (and without their returner being an idiot and without the defense being called for a few more stupid penalties).

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:00 pm

brian wrote:By the way that replay was a perfect example of why the NFL should (at a minimum) mandate there's a fixed camera on both goallines.

Peter King tweeted the same thing.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:18 pm

degenerasian wrote:
Pruitt wrote:
brian wrote:This is one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen.
That's why we bet on them - to make them exciting.

Don't tell me about injuries - Cam Newton is one of the most over rated players I have ever seen.
More than Cutler?

More than Hoculi?

No one rates Cutler highly. Yet you always hear about Newton - and then you see him play...

I bet on the Cards (and may still lose), but I based it on the dreck that Carolina's 4 game winning streak was built on. New Orleans, Tampa, Cleveland and Atlanta. Fooey!

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:37 pm

Arizona is playing a cadaver at QB. Why would Carolina punt from the ARI 38 on 4th & 4?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:42 pm

brian wrote:Arizona is playing a cadaver at QB. Why would Carolina punt from the ARI 38 on 4th & 4?

To pin the cadaver inside his 10. And take away ted ginn.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:47 pm

degenerasian wrote:
brian wrote:Arizona is playing a cadaver at QB. Why would Carolina punt from the ARI 38 on 4th & 4?
To pin the cadaver inside his 10. And take away ted ginn.

You're not guaranteed to pin them. Could have been a 18 yard net. They got lucky.

Also the officiating in this game sucks. Expect nothing less from Hochuli.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:50 pm

How is Cam Newton overrated? Who is he being rated over? And by whom?

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:57 pm

I think it's been awhile since he was over-rated. A has-been of over-ratedness.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:05 pm

A backward pass is forward if the arm goes forward? How the fuck do they come up with these rules?

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:06 pm

EdRomero wrote:A backward pass is forward if the arm goes forward? How the fuck do they come up with these rules?

Was thinking the same thing. Idiotic.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:08 pm

Consistency is important in rules and how they are interpreted. So, they are being consistent.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:12 pm

Laws to protect referees from being referees. Basically a defender must get to a QB before his arm goes forward (empty hand) to cause a fumble otherwise it's incomplete. No grey area.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:21 pm

I know QB is hard. But how is Ryan Lindley employed?

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:23 pm

brian wrote:I know QB is hard. But how is Ryan Lindley employed?

I hope he has a 30 rating in Madden next year.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:29 pm

Assume (and I hope I'm wrong but assume) Dallas wins tomorrow. Seattle might be a -13/14 favorite over Carolina. And I'd have a hard time taking the points.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:31 pm

brian wrote:Assume (and I hope I'm wrong but assume) Dallas wins tomorrow. Seattle might be a -13/14 favorite over Carolina. And I'd have a hard time taking the points.

hmmm Seahawks offense struggled at times this year and those Panther linebackers are really good.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:35 pm

I'll gladly bet about any amount of money on Seattle less than 2 TDs vs this Carolina team. Their LBs are good. But that's about it.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:41 pm

I hope Lindley saved whatever he's made to this point. He's not going to throw another regular-season pass in the NFL ever again.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:42 pm

brian wrote:This is one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen.

Time to remove "one of" from that sentence. And switch "games" to singular. Might want to remove the word "playoff" too.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:44 pm

Lindley stared down Fitz for like 5 seconds on that last INT. Amazing.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:45 pm

brian wrote:I'll gladly bet about any amount of money on Seattle less than 2 TDs vs this Carolina team. Their LBs are good. But that's about it.

Yeah I tend to agree. Can Carolina run the ball would be another question. I don't know if Seattle could cover 14 but I would not be at all comfortable watching Carolina survive and my money on the line.

In a scheduling quirk Seattle has played in Carolina each of the last 3 season and all their games were something like 13-9. Of course being in Seattle this time is a huge difference.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:52 pm

brian wrote:I know QB is hard. But how is Ryan Lindley employed?

This is the nature of the beast. If we saw every other team's backup QBs play against play-off quality teams, there would be blood running in the streets. To make the games interesting they'd have to require defenses to play with 10 on the field, and give the offenses 5 downs.

That might not be enough. Perhaps blitzing would have to be outlawed. And cornerbacks would have to run with potato sacks tied around their feet, like in a sack race. That might do it.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:58 pm

Jay Kornegay (who runs the Westgate (formerly LVH) sports book) told one of my buddies here who works for the sports talk radio station that the opening lines would likely be around Seattle -11 vs. Carolina or GB -8 vs. Carolina. I'm going to be hitting refresh on my sports betting app repeatedly tomorrow after the Lions game to bet my mortgage against the Panthers regardless of which it is. I think they'll get destroyed against a quality team. That did not look like a team that should have won a playoff game today, Ryan Lindley as the opposing QB or not.