The Swamp

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:38 pm**

TMZ reporting he died in a helicopter crash.

https://myfox8.com/2020/01/26/kobe-brya ... z-reports/

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:41 pm**

Local ABC news affiliate also reporting it now.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:49 pm**

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From this weekend, but prior to Bryant’s death:

h/t boxcar

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:53 pm**

Now Woj confirming it.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:58 pm**

Oh man. That’s terrible.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:49 pm**

TMZ reporting daughter onboard. On way to practice.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:58 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:02 pm**

Amazing that TMZ is the most reliable source. ABC is all over the place spreading rumors.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:11 pm**

I'm watching the Raptors-Spurs pregame and nobody wants to play. NBA thinking about calling off all games today

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:16 pm**

I’m watching Rockets and while it started off with a lot of disinterest, it’s more normal now. Tyson Chandler has gone from openly weeping on the bench to becoming a cheerleader.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:18 pm**

So the game started. Spurs and Raptors both let the 24 second shot clock expire on the first two possessions of the game to honour Kobe.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:22 pm**

I suppose since everyone was in the arena is why that one went off. Have to think they will cancel the rest.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:24 pm**

It’s hard to overstate how beloved Kobe is among current NBA players. Most of them are too young to have seen much of Jordan but they all grew up watching Kobe play.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:29 pm**

Joe K wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:24 pm It’s hard to overstate how beloved Kobe is among current NBA players. Most of them are too young to have seen much of Jordan but they all grew up watching Kobe play.

Agree 1000 percent.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:38 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:19 pm**

He was a partner with a buddy of mine for this training facility in LA. There were all kinds of pictures of him with some lacrosse kids training yesterday at the facility.

Maybe too soon, but the Kobe thing always brings me back to Tosh's take on Kobe fandom

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:47 pm**

Does no one want to mention there’s at least a somewhat decent chance he’s a rapist who got away with it for all these years?

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:48 pm**

Certainly part of his story. But he died with his daughter so maybe wait a day or two?

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:50 pm**

A_B wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:48 pm Certainly part of his story. But he died with his daughter so maybe wait a day or two?

To feel bad for a rapist? I feel sorry for his daughter for sure.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:58 pm**

This rush to rehabilitate Kobe just because he had the sense to not rape anyone again is really puzzling.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:07 pm**

A_B wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:48 pm Certainly part of his story. But he died with his daughter so maybe wait a day or two?

im giving it a few days minimum

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:09 pm**

Well that should be all it takes to make Brian realize he is being a total ass.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:10 pm**

Rest In Peace, probable rapist.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:27 pm**

I was not a Kobe fan, at all. But to address Brian’s point, I don’t think the reaction he’s getting is unique. If Ben Roethlisberger or Bill Clinton or [insert famous rockstar here] died unexpectedly tomorrow I think you’d see a similar outpouring of admiration and grief. That doesn’t mean that celebrities’ transgressions should be ignored — just that the public reaction here is not surprising.

I also tend to believe in second chances and don’t think Kobe was ever accused of anything other than being a difficult teammate post-2003.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:29 pm**

Also anyone dogging on me or the Lions for employing Patricia while mourning Kobe is a major league asshole.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:33 pm**

Joe K wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:27 pm I was not a Kobe fan, at all. But to address Brian’s point, I don’t think the reaction he’s getting is unique. If Ben Roethlisberger or Bill Clinton or [insert famous rockstar here] died unexpectedly tomorrow I think you’d see a similar outpouring of admiration and grief. That doesn’t mean that celebrities’ transgressions should be ignored — just that the public reaction here is not surprising.

I also tend to believe in second chances and don’t think Kobe was ever accused of anything other than being a difficult teammate post-2003.

It’s probably really easy to forgive and forget rape when you’re a dude.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:35 pm**

I could be very wrong and I’m willing to be, but I thought Kobe’s had a lot of gray area.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:47 pm**

brian wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:33 pm
Joe K wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:27 pm I was not a Kobe fan, at all. But to address Brian’s point, I don’t think the reaction he’s getting is unique. If Ben Roethlisberger or Bill Clinton or [insert famous rockstar here] died unexpectedly tomorrow I think you’d see a similar outpouring of admiration and grief. That doesn’t mean that celebrities’ transgressions should be ignored — just that the public reaction here is not surprising.

I also tend to believe in second chances and don’t think Kobe was ever accused of anything other than being a difficult teammate post-2003.
It’s probably really easy to forgive and forget rape when you’re a dude.

Plenty of women have been praising and mourning Kobe today do you can’t just attribute the reaction to gender biases. Just a few examples:

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:49 pm**

mister d wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:35 pm I could be very wrong and I’m willing to be, but I thought Kobe’s had a lot of gray area.

They (mostly) all do. Either you believe women or you don’t. I’m not saying he should have been lynched but everyone was REALLY relieved when he was acquitted or else they might have had to confront the reality that nice dudes rape women too.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:51 pm**

But you guys go on with the hero worship. Keep dogging on the Lions/Patricia while you do. I think I’ve been consistent and I can live with that.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:52 pm**

That’s not what I meant either. I meant there’s a version where a non-agreed upon act happened during a consensual event, which I don’t think is the same as forcing the event.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:54 pm**

mister d wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:52 pm That’s not what I meant either. I meant there’s a version where a non-agreed upon act happened during a consensual event, which I don’t think is the same as forcing the event.

Which is not rape how exactly?

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:58 pm**

Are you asking how doing any secondary maneuver is not rape?

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:00 pm**

mister d wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:58 pm Are you asking how doing any secondary maneuver is not rape?

So fifteen years from now if your daughter agrees to consensual sex and some dude decides to flip her around and fuck her in the ass without her consent that’s OK?

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:00 pm**

(And if your response is “does that mean starting condones anything” or course not and not stopping clearly crosses the consent line.)

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:05 pm**

I’m not saying he’s some kind of serial rapist like the Golden State Killer here or anything but it’s been a weird path to rehabilitation where everyone is all upset that a dude who at the very fucking best likely crossed some serious lines puzzles me. Good thing for him he was good with the media and great at basketball.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:33 pm**

I don’t think he was good with the media at all. He was Jeter-ish where it always bordered on condescension.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:37 pm**

Kobe: <fucking MrDs daughter up the ass without her consent>

MrD: Guy’s a legend. 40,000 points. Whatta gonna do?

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:42 pm**

brian wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:37 pm Kobe: <fucking MrDs daughter up the ass without her consent>

MrD: Guy’s a legend. 40,000 points. Whatta gonna do?

Come on man. Just fuckin stop. No one thinks Kobe was a saint but this shit is too far.

Posted: **Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:10 pm**

No, Brian is in the right here and I (and one of my daughters) have to own that. I’m a long time Kobe stan and rape apologist so I feel this is all proper comeuppance. I love u Kobe. RIP.

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