MLB 2014 - AUGUST

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:33 pm

So, Paul Goldschmidt had his hand accidentally broken by a Pirate pitch, and in retaliation, now per twitter update, Andrew McCutchen now has a fractured rib. Sheesh.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:46 pm

Diamondbacks are garbage.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:47 pm

Washington claims Yankees non-LOOGY LOOGY who is under contract through next year, Yankees simply let him walk.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:03 pm

sancarlos wrote:So, Paul Goldschmidt had his hand accidentally broken by a Pirate pitch, and in retaliation, now per twitter update, Andrew McCutchen now has a fractured rib. Sheesh.

mutherfuck!

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:53 pm

This is why there's fighting in hockey.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:33 pm

mister d wrote:Washington claims Yankees non-LOOGY LOOGY who is under contract through next year, Yankees simply let him walk.

Not sure why no American League team claimed him. $4 mil for the next 2 years for a serviceable bullpen guy seems like a good deal. Tigers, Angels or another team with bullpen struggles couldn't use him? I though teams were swimming in cash now.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:31 pm

His job is to kill lefties and they're OBPing over .300 against him. Not horrible, but no reason to commit either.

Post by **brian** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:36 pm

David Price looks good sporting an Olde English D.

(I mean he literally looks good after a career of wearing clown clothes to be wearing a real major league uniform. Hopefully the pitching matches the duds.)

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:39 pm

Ooohhhhhhh shit did Betances just gas Cabrera.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:16 pm

David Price looks pretty good. Not Drew Smyly good. But he'll be okay.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:25 pm

Agreed. Sometimes he was throwing the ball hard and I was like "c'mon, man, just throw the ball like a normal person but don't hurt your arm or something" and those 10 SO were super inefficient. Tampa Bay got a steal.

HDO45331 · Post by **HDO45331** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:31 pm

rass wrote:
sancarlos wrote:So, Paul Goldschmidt had his hand accidentally broken by a Pirate pitch, and in retaliation, now per twitter update, Andrew McCutchen now has a fractured rib. Sheesh.
mutherfuck!

Senseless. There should be huge fines and suspensions. Not just for the jerk pitcher, but also for the people that gave the call.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:36 pm

mister d wrote:Agreed. Sometimes he was throwing the ball hard and I was like "c'mon, man, just throw the ball like a normal person but don't hurt your arm or something" and those 10 SO were super inefficient. Tampa Bay got a steal.

Agreed. But the real test will be when Price faces a strong lineup. Perhaps Tampa Bay, with Adames and Franklin in the 2 and 3 slots.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:36 pm

Totally. Although I guess its nice to know that Gibson is probably burying his second (non All-Star level) career with all of this.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:38 pm

LaRussa just blamed the Pirates for pitching inside. I have a bad habit of reading replies to Keith Law tweets. Based on Diamondback fan replies, I now believe Arizona should not have a baseball team nor representation in Congress.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:41 pm

If, instead of meeting up with me just one time at a bar, you'd gone with me to the Alewife Whole Foods every time I went there, you could have met Klaw. Something to consider.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:45 pm

On the list of athletes you're probably a dickhead if you hate for on-field reasons, Joba has to be near the top.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:33 pm

brian wrote:David Price looks good sporting an Olde English D.

(I mean he literally looks good after a career of wearing clown clothes to be wearing a real major league uniform. Hopefully the pitching matches the duds.)

C'mon, we've been out of clown clothes since '08.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:36 pm

EdRomero wrote:LaRussa just blamed the Pirates for pitching inside. I have a bad habit of reading replies to Keith Law tweets. Based on Diamondback fan replies, I now believe Arizona should not have a baseball team nor representation in Congress.

I was a bit surprised LaRussa would say that, until I remembered that LaRussa is now employed by the Diamondbacks.

Post by **brian** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:13 am

govmentchedda wrote:
brian wrote:David Price looks good sporting an Olde English D.

(I mean he literally looks good after a career of wearing clown clothes to be wearing a real major league uniform. Hopefully the pitching matches the duds.)
C'mon, we've been out of clown clothes since '08.

They're not in the top 8 or 9 stupidest uniforms and that's saying something considering those late 00's unis.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:21 pm

brian wrote:
govmentchedda wrote:
brian wrote:David Price looks good sporting an Olde English D.

(I mean he literally looks good after a career of wearing clown clothes to be wearing a real major league uniform. Hopefully the pitching matches the duds.)
C'mon, we've been out of clown clothes since '08.
They're not in the top 8 or 9 stupidest uniforms and that's saying something considering those late 00's unis.

Plus, Price didn't come up until '08, so he was never in a clown uniform, unless you don't like some of the one off throwback stuff they've done in recent years. TAKE IT ALL BACK!

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:57 pm

Rules:

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:04 pm

mister d wrote:If, instead of meeting up with me just one time at a bar, you'd gone with me to the Alewife Whole Foods every time I went there, you could have met Klaw. Something to consider.

Shopping with Keith Law & Mr. D. would be a great sitcom.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:48 pm

Drew Smyly was totally dominant tonight. Franklin and Adames probably were too.

David Price did nothing at all for the Tigers.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:05 am

DC47 wrote:Drew Smyly was totally dominant tonight. Franklin and Adames probably were too.

David Price did nothing at all for the Tigers.

Am I missing a joke, here?

Post by **brian** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:26 am

sancarlos wrote:
DC47 wrote:Drew Smyly was totally dominant tonight. Franklin and Adames probably were too.

David Price did nothing at all for the Tigers.
Am I missing a joke, here?

Well, it was his off day, so I'm guessing that was the joke.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:29 am

It kinda pains me to see Verlander be a shell of his former self. He gonna pull a Lincecum in the playoffs?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:47 am

"Should Bryce Harper be demoted" is the new dumbest thing in the world.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:20 am

brian wrote:
sancarlos wrote:
DC47 wrote:Drew Smyly was totally dominant tonight. Franklin and Adames probably were too.

David Price did nothing at all for the Tigers.
Am I missing a joke, here?
Well, it was his off day, so I'm guessing that was the joke.

It was Smyly's off-day, too. He gave up 3 earned in 5.1 on Tuesday.

Post by **brian** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:22 am

sancarlos wrote: It was Smyly's off-day, too. He gave up 3 earned in 5.1 on Tuesday.

Smyly is now dead to me, so I didn't realize that.

(But seriously, I think you interpreted the humorous intent correctly, even if you didn't necessarily find it humorous. These things happen. )

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:23 am

AB_skin_test wrote:It kinda pains me to see Verlander be a shell of his former self. He gonna pull a Lincecum in the playoffs?

Shell is a bit much. His stats are lousy. But Verlander has been a lot better in the past month than in the first three.

He can't dial it up to 97+ like he could a couple years ago. But he can throw 92 to 94, and he's got good off-speed pitches. He can be very effective if he has command. He's smart, motivated, and works on his game. I don't think he's going to coast on his massive contract. Way too soon to write him off.

Further, Verlander is coming off some kind of core surgery last winter. So he may be better next year simply because he's had enough time to get in excellent condition with a full off-season to get the work in.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:34 am

Verlander's swinging strike rate (relative to league):
2011: 10.2% (+20.0%)
2012: 11.7% (+36.0%)
2013: 10.5% (+15.4%)
2014: 8.6% (-7.5%)

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:40 am

Also, Verlander is 31.5 and he's thrown a lot of innings. He leads the 1983 birth class in innings by 100 (Greinke) and would lead the 1982 class by the same gap (Santana). 1981, only Peavy and Carlos Zambrano have more. Only Felix is a bigger outlier.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:05 pm

DC47 wrote:
AB_skin_test wrote:It kinda pains me to see Verlander be a shell of his former self. He gonna pull a Lincecum in the playoffs?
Shell is a bit much. His stats are lousy. But Verlander has been a lot better in the past month than in the first three.

He can't dial it up to 97+ like he could a couple years ago. But he can throw 92 to 94, and he's got good off-speed pitches. He can be very effective if he has command. He's smart, motivated, and works on his game. I don't think he's going to coast on his massive contract. Way too soon to write him off.

Further, Verlander is coming off some kind of core surgery last winter. So he may be better next year simply because he's had enough time to get in excellent condition with a full off-season to get the work in.

Including his fastball last night in the 7th.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:26 pm

Verlander's season stats are poor. But consistent with the theory that he's recovering after a bad start due to having surgery last winter, below are some stats in the past 28 days. That's not vintage Verlander. But it's a sign of improvement.

3.60 ERA
1.11 WHIP
.660 OPS against

By way of contrast, here are David Price's season stats.

3.11 ERA
1.04 WHIP
.652 OPS against

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:37 pm

Guess who has a .244 BABIP over the last 30 days (.304 overall) despite his SO% actually dropping below his season average.

DC47 · Post by **DC47** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:00 pm

Smyly's been good. But that good?

I looked up Price, but he's got just a .276 BABIP in the past 28 days.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:03 pm

If the argument is that Detroit would be better served long term having attached Verlander's contract rather than Smyly in the Price trade, I'm not going to oppose you.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:04 pm

(Its Verlander. I'm saying his improved-but-not-good ERA and low WHIP are more output blip than input improvement.)

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:29 pm

Hunter Pence is my favorite player.