Swamp Album Draft: Current Pick - BFJ (329th) + SKIP J-LO (324/325th)

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:13 pm

Lay-up. Many a college night spent swilling beers and shooting pool while this spun. I'd argue that 8 of the songs on this album are so good that we can overlook the blight of Going Mobile (mobile, mobile, mobile...).

Because I'm an air-conditioned gypsy.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:55 pm

I was ready to pick Who’s Next with my last pick, but I looked at the track list and realized that I would never want to hear most of those songs anymore. I love The Who, but I’m not sure that album would get much airplay in the cabin. I’d be opting for Jimi over Pete.

I like Going Mobile. Hee hoo. Beep beep.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:31 pm

bfj wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:55 pm I was ready to pick Who’s Next with my last pick, but I looked at the track list and realized that I would never want to hear most of those songs anymore. I love The Who, but I’m not sure that album would get much airplay in the cabin. I’d be opting for Jimi over Pete.

I like Going Mobile. Hee hoo. Beep beep.

I like Live at Leeds way more than any other of their albums.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:33 pm

sancarlos wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:31 pm
bfj wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:55 pm I was ready to pick Who’s Next with my last pick, but I looked at the track list and realized that I would never want to hear most of those songs anymore. I love The Who, but I’m not sure that album would get much airplay in the cabin. I’d be opting for Jimi over Pete.

I like Going Mobile. Hee hoo. Beep beep.
I like Live at Leeds way more than any other of their albums.

That'd be my Who choice - although in typical Who fashion, there are now like 5 versions of that album.

Still...

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:47 pm

I challenge anyone to find another Who LP that starts stronger than The Who by Numbers (Slip Kid, However Much I Booze & Squeeze Box)..

Now the walls are all clawed and scratched
Like by some soul insane
In the morning I humbly detach myself
I take no blame
I just can't face my failure
I'm nothing but a well fucked sailor
You at home can easily decide what's right
By glancing very briefly at the songs I write
But it don't help me that you know
This ain't no way out
Won't somebody tell me?
I don't care what you say, boy
There ain't no way out

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:48 pm

Pruitt wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:33 pm
sancarlos wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:31 pm
bfj wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:55 pm I was ready to pick Who’s Next with my last pick, but I looked at the track list and realized that I would never want to hear most of those songs anymore. I love The Who, but I’m not sure that album would get much airplay in the cabin. I’d be opting for Jimi over Pete.

I like Going Mobile. Hee hoo. Beep beep.
I like Live at Leeds way more than any other of their albums.
That'd be my Who choice - although in typical Who fashion, there are now like 5 versions of that album.

Still...

THat's a great freakin song (Going Mobile aint bad neither)

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:40 pm

My life's in jeopardy
Murdered in cold blood is what I'm gonna be
I ain't been home since Friday night
And now my wife is coming after me.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:48 pm

“And as we go to commercial, a live look at Hall & Oates’ house. That’s Oates on the phone right now. Who’s on the other end? We may find out after the break.”

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:49 pm

Ryan wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:48 pm “And as we go to commercial, a live look at Hall & Oates’ house. That’s Oates on the phone right now. Who’s on the other end? We may find out after the break.”

Is it Barry Manilow telling them he received some good news?

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:14 am

My, but the court is busy

duff wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:01 pm Paging Chief Justice Howard of New York...

Paging Chief Justice Howard of New York...

Where does Sun Volt and Wilco fall in line? Asking for a friend.

Did Tweedy and Farrar really fucking hate each other? Or had drastically different visions? Was it over a girl/was there a Yoko? Or it just worked out for the best for Tweedy to go his way, and Farrar continue with some of the other Tupelo boys?

When I first saw the query, I thought, shit this is gonna be a tough call. But it is pretty easy. As I mentioned above, somehow I thought there was some cross-pollination between Wilco and Son Volt, but apparently not much. While more members of Tupelo went to Wilco, two of the three original Tupelos went to Volt. And it is not reasonable to consider Tupelo as 'Tweedy's band' or 'Farrar's band'.

Ruling:
Uncle Tupelo is a thing; sancarlos pick at Round 2 Pick 12 takes the four studio albums off the board, as well as any compilations/demos. Also a thing is Wilco/any solo Tweedy stuff (I think there is one solo album). As is Volt/Farrar solo records. Three separate things. The latter two are available for selection

DaveInSeattle wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:16 am I'll leave it to the Draft Overseer Howard to rule on whether this also takes Husker Du off the board.

This is a little tougher. Clearly Sugar is a Bob Mould band, so your selection includes his solo work plus the four Sugar studio albums. The court is conflicted in considering Hüsker Dü a band dominated by Mould, or is Grant Hart's lesser role significant enough to consider the band separately. That driving 4/4 beat. The Girl Who Lives On Heaven Hill, a Hart composition, my fav Dü tune, and one of the few songs I have been allowed to sing onstage (since the lyrics are best screamed, and that is about all I can manage vocally to an acceptable degree of competence.) OTOH, the court is of the opinion that Hart's solo stuff, well, kinda sucks, and his Dü songs were as a whole weaker that Mould's. But they wrote many songs together.

Ruling:
Gonna consider Hüsker Dü a Bob Mould band, and belong with the Round 2 Pick 11 choice of Dave in Seattle, along with the Mould/Sugar pick. This is really arbitrary, bordering on capricious. Life isn't fair. Mostly to reward the excellent, inspired selection. If someone had Zen Arcade or Flip your Wig on your draft board, well the court just fucked you, cuz they and the rest of the Hüsker Dü output belongs to Dave.

Gimme police protection
Gonna buy a gun
So I can look out for Number One

Take all the words I've written in this thread, with these posturing pseudo-legal proclamations. Multiply by about 27. That is roughly how many words I could spontaneously spew forth in consideration of this single LP, Who's Next. My Wife by far my favorite song. But I love Going Mobile, and everything else. I wrote out the lyrics to each song. I taught myself barre chords on a roommate's guitar to these songs. I've listened to Keith's track on My Wife over and over, and I can still hear something new. I'll spare you my other thousands of thoughts on this album, but man do I love it.

Give me a bodyguard
A black belt judo expert
With a machine gun

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:23 am

I mean, it means very little to me, because for whatever reason I never sank my teeth into Husker Du, so I really know Mould as a stand alone artist.

That ignorance also extends to the Wilco/Tupelo/Sun Volt issue. I just wasn't that into 2 of these 3 and was not curious enough to extend past one of them to be aware of the connections.

So, I'm not gonna argue the Mould thing, especially because if you WERE into Husker Du, you'd undoubtedly not be ignorant on the Mould thing.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:11 am

Gonna buy a fast car
Put on my lead boots
And take a long, long drive
I may end up spending all my money
But I'll still be alive

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:13 am

Not that I need to, but I co-sign Howard’s Mould ruling.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:48 am

Alright, well I'm firewalled from that thing on Page 1, but I'm pretty sure these are out there...

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:58 am

I really like the NWA pick. That was on my board, for sure.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:59 am

Yeah, I love Carole King. A lot of people don't know that about me.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:00 am

Direct link in the first post not working either? Really liking the dichotomy between the two picks.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:06 am

I was just thinking about who the first female/female-led pick would be. That was one of my 3 guesses

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:18 am

Fleetwood Mac was picked about 15 spots ago.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:26 am

Despite the power of Stevie, I don't think of them that way

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:30 am

Fair enough.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:41 am

Love the dichotomy of J-Lo's two picks.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:13 pm

mister d wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:00 am Direct link in the first post not working either? Really liking the dichotomy between the two picks.

No, I get a white page that says "the proxy server is refusing connections."

I can check on my phone if I need to though.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:22 pm

Carole King is a fantastic pick.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:25 pm

Jerloma wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:13 pmNo, I get a white page that says "the proxy server is refusing connections."

I can check on my phone if I need to though.

I'll tweet it out.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:36 pm

mister d wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:00 am Really liking the dic...to.my...ween...

sancarlos wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:41 am Love the dic...to...J-.o...

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:38 pm

mister d wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:25 pm
Jerloma wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:13 pmNo, I get a white page that says "the proxy server is refusing connections."

I can check on my phone if I need to though.
I'll tweet it out.

Ha! That's well done.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:24 pm

mister d wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:00 am D...ink in the fi...st not working.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:31 pm

The Commissioner has a fuck ton more patience than Nonlinear FC's brain trust.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:41 pm

I know, but I feel like there are still like a dozen too many top artists to start skipping. Maybe Rd 5 or something?

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:25 pm

Hey fuck you guys. And Carole King. I'll take the river down to still water and ride a pack of dogs.

(I honestly didn't know until now that this came out the same day as Nevermind. What a great era for music. Also, you guys remember when albums were only released on Tuesdays and you'd always be in the know about what was coming out that week?)

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:29 pm

Or going Monday at midnight? The old days!

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:33 pm

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:40 pm

I HATED the move to Fridays until the wife and I stopped carpooling on Fridays and now it's awesome to make the trek into work listening to new music.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:10 pm

P.D.X. wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:25 pm Hey fuck you guys. And Carole King. I'll take the river down to still water and ride a pack of dogs.

(I honestly didn't know until now that this came out the same day as Nevermind. What a great era for music. Also, you guys remember when albums were only released on Tuesdays and you'd always be in the know about what was coming out that week?)

I was holding my tongue on the Carole King choice, perhaps because the choice reminded me of my late mother - she loved that album too. Striesand is still available if somebody wants to complete the tribute to her record collection.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:58 pm

P.D.X. wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:25 pm Hey fuck you guys. And Carole King. I'll take the river down to still water and ride a pack of dogs.

(I honestly didn't know until now that this came out the same day as Nevermind. What a great era for music. Also, you guys remember when albums were only released on Tuesdays and you'd always be in the know about what was coming out that week?)

BadMotorFinger is infinitely better than Nevermind.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:21 pm

I'm going with the magnum opus for the greatest concert I ever attended.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:08 am

The first perfect album selected in this draft.

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:27 am

I’ve got my classic rock represented, I’ve got my louder, grungier, angrier music represented. Now it’s time to mellow it out a bit with some jazz. This was the first Coltrane album I was introduced to and it is a great record. McCoy Tyner, Jimmy Garrison and Elvin Jones accompany Coltrane on this and it is just so good.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:20 am

govmentchedda wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:08 am

The first perfect album selected in this draft.

Dang!