NFL Week 20 - Divisional Round

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:20 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:19 pm
Jerloma wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:18 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:09 pm Mahomes fumbled that ball, but because it went forward, it’s an incomplete pass.

Oh, and he’s gimpy.
Arm was going forward with control. No chance of fumbling from that point. Doesn't matter which way the ball goes.
Except he didn’t have control when the ball came out. Agreed it wouldn’t matter cuz it met the criteria for a forward pass.

not sure why that would matter at all. QBs who get hit when their arms are going forward regularly don't have control of the ball as their arm continues to go forward on clear incompletions

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:33 pm

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:20 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:19 pm
Jerloma wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:18 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:09 pm Mahomes fumbled that ball, but because it went forward, it’s an incomplete pass.

Oh, and he’s gimpy.
Arm was going forward with control. No chance of fumbling from that point. Doesn't matter which way the ball goes.
Except he didn’t have control when the ball came out. Agreed it wouldn’t matter cuz it met the criteria for a forward pass.
not sure why that would matter at all. QBs who get hit when their arms are going forward regularly don't have control of the ball as their arm continues to go forward on clear incompletions

Exactly. Almost always...

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:37 pm

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:17 pm Woof. Might shut this down at halftime and fire up Goliath.

Nina Arianda is calling you.

Post by **brian** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:54 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:37 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:17 pm Woof. Might shut this down at halftime and fire up Goliath.
Nina Arianda is calling you.

She’s hawt.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:08 pm

I’ll just put this here because the conversation happened while we were watching the Eagles/Giants game, but while discussing JJ Watt’s retirement this jerkdick at this party says, “yeah he retired and it could’ve been because of a heart issue that could’ve been caused by the vaccine we don’t know?!”

Just trying to keep a harmonious neighborhood over here…

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:21 pm

brian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:54 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:37 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:17 pm Woof. Might shut this down at halftime and fire up Goliath.
Nina Arianda is calling you.
She’s hawt.

Hell of an actress too. I saw her on Broadway around ten years ago and thought she was going to go places.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:43 pm

"Gainwell" is some serious nominative determinism.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:53 pm

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:20 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:19 pm
Jerloma wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:18 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:09 pm Mahomes fumbled that ball, but because it went forward, it’s an incomplete pass.

Oh, and he’s gimpy.
Arm was going forward with control. No chance of fumbling from that point. Doesn't matter which way the ball goes.
Except he didn’t have control when the ball came out. Agreed it wouldn’t matter cuz it met the criteria for a forward pass.
not sure why that would matter at all. QBs who get hit when their arms are going forward regularly don't have control of the ball as their arm continues to go forward on clear incompletions

I’m legislating intent. Mahomes tried to get cute and fumbled the ball. QBs getting jacked isn’t really analogous except that it’s why the rule was an incomplete pass.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:54 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:37 pm
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:17 pm Woof. Might shut this down at halftime and fire up Goliath.
Nina Arianda is calling you.

[+] spoiler: Last night I didn’t appreciate burn victim William Hurt’s dong waving at me as he walked towards the young lawyer he was about to indoctrinate into his web.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:55 am

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:53 pm I’m legislating intent. Mahomes tried to get cute and fumbled the ball. QBs getting jacked isn’t really analogous except that it’s why the rule was an incomplete pass.

lol, no he didn't

you can't legislate intent outside the framework of the rules. he made the play he did in that moment because he saw at the last second that the pass he wanted to throw wasn't a good idea with the defenders over the middle and just turfed it instead. please take it from someone who has seen basically every snap Mahomes has played that he does this same move on a not infrequent basis if he realizes at the last second he doesn't want to throw the ball because he knows it'll be an incomplete pass

Pruitt IV · Post by **Pruitt IV** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:51 pm

If pessimism was food, I'd have closed the buffet down.

45 years of bitter disappointment and grinding failure makes it impossible to be positive during the playoffs.

Still, Go Bills!

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:35 pm

Joe Burrow really is outstanding, he might be the best QB in the NFL right now.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:20 pm

I guess I’m leaning Buffalo here as far as rooting interests go but was that overturned TD catch really all that controversial? Ball was moving all over the place.

Pruitt IV · Post by **Pruitt IV** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:29 pm

Feels like the Bills are down 28.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:33 pm

rass wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:20 pm I guess I’m leaning Buffalo here as far as rooting interests go but was that overturned TD catch really all that controversial? Ball was moving all over the place.

It was a catch for the Eagles in the Super Bowl with Troy Vincent hanging out in the replay booth.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:35 pm

EdRomero wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:33 pm
rass wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:20 pm I guess I’m leaning Buffalo here as far as rooting interests go but was that overturned TD catch really all that controversial? Ball was moving all over the place.
It was a catch for the Eagles in the Super Bowl with Troy Vincent hanging out in the replay booth.

Indeed.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:43 pm

rass wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:20 pm I guess I’m leaning Buffalo here as far as rooting interests go but was that overturned TD catch really all that controversial? Ball was moving all over the place.

Not even remotely. THIS is controversial.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:53 pm

Why do you guys hate Cole Beasley? Is that an inside joke or something?

Tom 1860 · Post by **Tom 1860** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:13 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:53 pm Why do you guys hate Cole Beasley? Is that an inside joke or something?

The the Covid stuff right?

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:13 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:53 pm Why do you guys hate Cole Beasley? Is that an inside joke or something?

Vocal anti-vaxx idiot.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:14 pm

how in 2023 the NFL still cant figure out delay of game?

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:14 pm

Oh, okay. I didn't know about that.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:40 pm

Pregame warmups…

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:41 pm

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:55 am
EnochRoot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:53 pm I’m legislating intent. Mahomes tried to get cute and fumbled the ball. QBs getting jacked isn’t really analogous except that it’s why the rule was an incomplete pass.
lol, no he didn't

you can't legislate intent outside the framework of the rules. he made the play he did in that moment because he saw at the last second that the pass he wanted to throw wasn't a good idea with the defenders over the middle and just turfed it instead. please take it from someone who has seen basically every snap Mahomes has played that he does this same move on a not infrequent basis if he realizes at the last second he doesn't want to throw the ball because he knows it'll be an incomplete pass

What I saw was Mahomes lose control of the ball. The rule insists it be an incompletion (and I understand that), but he also fumbled it. That’s my recollection anyway.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:41 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:40 pm Pregame warmups…

YEE-HAW

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:45 pm

Oohhhh. Stat nerd alert. I'd rather still be in the game.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:54 pm

Holy shit.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:57 pm

I'ma try and get a ticket for $100

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:10 pm

EdRomero wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:33 pm
rass wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:20 pm I guess I’m leaning Buffalo here as far as rooting interests go but was that overturned TD catch really all that controversial? Ball was moving all over the place.
It was a catch for the Eagles in the Super Bowl with Troy Vincent hanging out in the replay booth.

Lol. So they should change the rule because it was called incorrectly against the Patriots?

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:23 pm

“Better send those refunds!”

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:34 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:23 pm “Better send those refunds!”

I don't even know the details of this perceived disrespect but I feel like you have to start preparing for an AFCC at a neutral stadium more than a week in advance.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:54 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:23 pm With no rooting interest in the playoffs this year, I'd really want to see a 49ers/Bills Super Bowl.

I'm hosting a Super Bowl party this year and my wife is a 49ers fan while friends of ours are originally from Buffalo.

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:25 pm A 49ers/Bills Super Bowl would make Chris Berman happy so I’m gonna go ahead and veto that idea.

You get your wish!

Anyhoo, the would-be attendee Bills fans will selfishly be celebrating one of their birthdays out of state that day anyway.

DUMB.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:05 pm

Person whose team was objectively gifted a playoff game last year...

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:10 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:05 pm Person whose team was objectively gifted a playoff game last year...

I get to be that guy. been a LONG time coming. That overturn TD was bullshit. He had three feet down. Regardless. And the team and fanbase was salty as fuck over the neutral site thing because it was the NFL itself selling those tickets. After boning the bengals on not considering playing today's game at a nuetral site.

Regardless, this is a a first. 52 years of life and 47 that I can recall rooting for that team and to win a playoff game on the road in that fashion while decided underdogs is not something I've seen before. So, holy shit.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:14 pm

in my lifetime, the bengals have 10 playoff wins. 5 of those have come in the last two years. Thank god for burrow.

Post by **brian** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:18 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:10 pm
Jerloma wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:05 pm Person whose team was objectively gifted a playoff game last year...

I get to be that guy. been a LONG time coming. That overturn TD was bullshit. He had three feet down. Regardless. And the team and fanbase was salty as fuck over the neutral site thing because it was the NFL itself selling those tickets. After boning the bengals on not considering playing today's game at a nuetral site.

Regardless, this is a a first. 52 years of life and 47 that I can recall rooting for that team and to win a playoff game on the road in that fashion while decided underdogs is not something I've seen before. So, holy shit.

No offense but as a neutral observer the overturn was clearly correct. Obvious interpretation of the Calvin Johnson Rule.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:18 pm

the calvin johnson rule still sucks.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:22 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:10 pm
Jerloma wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:05 pm Person whose team was objectively gifted a playoff game last year...

I get to be that guy. been a LONG time coming. That overturn TD was bullshit. He had three feet down. Regardless. And the team and fanbase was salty as fuck over the neutral site thing because it was the NFL itself selling those tickets. After boning the bengals on not considering playing today's game at a nuetral site.

Regardless, this is a a first. 52 years of life and 47 that I can recall rooting for that team and to win a playoff game on the road in that fashion while decided underdogs is not something I've seen before. So, holy shit.

The NFL will never get that catch thing right but I think according to the rule, even if he has possession with both feet in, if he loses possession through the process of the catch, after regaining possession he has to reestablish 2 feet inbounds. I don't even really know at this point though. The Clement catch in the SB was the same circumstance instead it's unclear as to whether he bobbled it or has just switching hands.

Im happy for you though, seriously. It's a great feeling, especially with a young team.

Post by **brian** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:25 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:18 pm the calvin johnson rule still sucks.

Not gonna argue that but it’s at least it’s usually interpreted consistently.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:22 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:34 pm
Giff wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:23 pm “Better send those refunds!”
I don't even know the details of this perceived disrespect but I feel like you have to start preparing for an AFCC at a neutral stadium more than a week in advance.

Aside from the NFL setting up boilerplate cancelable hotel rooming blocks for next Saturday night for the two teams (likely a part of the decision to have the game in Atlanta), there's not that much to do, early or late. They basically would have had to paint the end zones/midfield next week and hang generic "AFC Championship Game" decor on the walls circling the field in the stadium. Plenty of time for those tasks.