NCAA Football 2024 - it goes to 12!

[HaulCitgo]

I'd love to hear everyone's basis for why the Big 12 champion should receive the No. 4 seed over Boise State

also keep in mind that Boise could (and should) go to No. 3 if Clemson wins tonight. if someone wants to make the case for why a three-loss Clemson should jump Boise too, have at it

They trying to tell you themselves

[sancarlos]

Gary Danielsen spending a lot of time whining about the refs on behalf of Penn State.

[HaulCitgo]

Hell of a finish in Charlotte

[brian]

Hell of a finish in Charlotte

Probably knocks Alabama out so good result.

[brian]

Some of the projected fields have two intrastate games in the first round — SMU/Texas and Indiana/Notre Dame which would be.

[HaulCitgo]

They're not better though. Clemson isnt that good. Neither is SMU. I don't think you have to give the acc two teams. Sec is just a lot better and their 1-8 is better than everyone in the ACC.

[sancarlos]

Selection show announcing the 12 teams, noon Eastern today. ESPN.

[sancarlos]

They're not better though. Clemson isnt that good. Neither is SMU. I don't think you have to give the acc two teams. Sec is just a lot better and their 1-8 is better than everyone in the ACC.

SMU it is..

[degenerasian]

The loss to OK was killer

[Giff]

I was hoping for an SMU/Texas first round game.

[L-Jam3]

As a college football agnostic, who should I root for? I was following The U but they got pushed out.

[rass]

Boise State, SMU, Indiana and ASU are all definitely not blue-bloods.

[brian]

The loss to OK was killer

At the end of the day the Vanderbilt one was worse. They could have absorbed the OK loss otherwise.

[brian]

I think both Indiana and Notre Dame are kind of frauds so that game will be fascinating. And Boise State gets the winner. I think you could very well see Indiana in the Final Four.

[degenerasian]

As a college football agnostic, who should I root for? I was following The U but they got pushed out.

Probably Boise State.

They should have an NIT, Alabama and Miami top seeds.

[L-Jam3]

So how does it work? If a team loses, is their season over, or do they go to a bullshit bowl like the Pinstripe Bowl or the Motor City Bowl?

[brian]

So how does it work? If a team loses, is their season over, or do they go to a bullshit bowl like the Pinstripe Bowl or the Motor City Bowl?

Season over.

[Brontoburglar]

The loss to OK was killer

At the end of the day the Vanderbilt one was worse. They could have absorbed the OK loss otherwise.

the loss to Vanderbilt was definitely not worse, both in the game itself and the context of the loss

[brian]

The loss to OK was killer

At the end of the day the Vanderbilt one was worse. They could have absorbed the OK loss otherwise.

the loss to Vanderbilt was definitely not worse, both in the game itself and the context of the loss

I know how final scores work but the committee is immediately pre-disposed to treat a loss to Oklahoma differently vs Vanderbilt regardless of their records.

[brian]

That said if Alabama had beaten either they’d obviously in so it’s moot.

[Brontoburglar]

The loss to OK was killer

At the end of the day the Vanderbilt one was worse. They could have absorbed the OK loss otherwise.

the loss to Vanderbilt was definitely not worse, both in the game itself and the context of the loss

I know how final scores work but the committee is immediately pre-disposed to treat a loss to Oklahoma differently vs Vanderbilt regardless of their records.

not this year

[rass]

The loss to OK was killer

At the end of the day the Vanderbilt one was worse. They could have absorbed the OK loss otherwise.

the loss to Vanderbilt was definitely not worse, both in the game itself and the context of the loss

I know how final scores work but the committee is immediately pre-disposed to treat a loss to Oklahoma differently vs Vanderbilt regardless of their records.

not this year

Is SMU in without that fourth quarter last night?

[brian]

The loss to OK was killer

At the end of the day the Vanderbilt one was worse. They could have absorbed the OK loss otherwise.

the loss to Vanderbilt was definitely not worse, both in the game itself and the context of the loss

I know how final scores work but the committee is immediately pre-disposed to treat a loss to Oklahoma differently vs Vanderbilt regardless of their records.

not this year

Is SMU in without that fourth quarter last night?

Yeah that’s a good question. Manuel basically said the fact SMU lost a close one mattered. I also think dropping a higher rated team with one less loss behind another team bc they lost a conference title game would set a bad precedent. For the most part you shouldn’t be punished for losing in a conference title game.

[brian]

The loss to OK was killer

At the end of the day the Vanderbilt one was worse. They could have absorbed the OK loss otherwise.

the loss to Vanderbilt was definitely not worse, both in the game itself and the context of the loss

I know how final scores work but the committee is immediately pre-disposed to treat a loss to Oklahoma differently vs Vanderbilt regardless of their records.

not this year

We’re both wrong and we’re both right but if Alabama loses 54-52 to OK in 4OTs they’re still not in the field.

[brian]

I think both Indiana and Notre Dame are kind of frauds so that game will be fascinating. And Boise State gets the winner. I think you could very well see Indiana in the Final Four.

My bad I read the bracket wrong. Thought this was the 6-11 game. Winner of the 6-11 game will roll Boise though.

[Brontoburglar]

I guess I just watch a completely different sport than some of you

[brian]

I guess I just watch a completely different sport than some of you

Cmon man defend your opinions. Are you saying Alabama would be in if they lost a close game to Oklahoma instead of a blowout? If so, why? I think the committee realized a) Alabama was gifted a 4-team spot over FSU last year; b) punishing a team for a mostly well-played close loss in a Power 4 title game would be a really bad precedent and c)SMU’s resume stands up to scrutiny vs Alabama especially when you factor in the extra loss for Bama.

[Brontoburglar]

I guess I just watch a completely different sport than some of you

Cmon man defend your opinions. Are you saying Alabama would be in if they lost a close game to Oklahoma instead of a blowout? If so, why? I think the committee realized a) Alabama was gifted a 4-team spot over FSU last year; b) punishing a team for a mostly well-played close loss in a Power 4 title game would be a really bad precedent and c)SMU’s resume stands up to scrutiny vs Alabama especially when you factor in the extra loss for Bama.

I mean, I'm not the one unequivocally saying the Vandy loss was worse than Oklahoma for Alabama and the one saying definitively that the winner of SMU/Penn State will "roll" Boise State. (you really think SMU is that much better than Boise State? really? Boise will have the best player on the field and its pass rush is no joke)

it's not unreasonable at all to think it's a much closer decision for the committee if Alabama had lost a very close game at Oklahoma. but the nature of the loss made the gap what it was.

what happened last year has nothing to do with it either. I agree that SMU playing an extra game factors in significantly and is also a big reason why. SMU in over Alabama is the right decision. but it's also a totally different discussion if the Oklahoma game goes far differently.

[HaulCitgo]

As a college football agnostic, who should I root for? I was following The U but they got pushed out.

I'd ride with skattabo but more fun to find a home team. I can't imagine the chaos of a home playoff. They might inquire with the hard rock stadium in miami before they open gates

[brian]

Wondering who the 4th team would have been if there was still only the 4-team playoff.

I think Oregon and Georgia are locks and Notre Dame is likely in but that 4th spot would be interesting. Penn State or Texas I guess.

[tennbengal]

I am still cackling over all the people that argued expanding the playoffs to 12 would render the regular season less meaningful or special. Easily the most compelling set of meaningful games for more weeks for a greater variety of schools than I’ve seen in my five decades of following the college version of the sport.

IU in the playoff is just so goddamn fun. Happy for them.

[sancarlos]

I am still cackling over all the people that argued expanding the playoffs to 12 would render the regular season less meaningful or special. Easily the most compelling set of meaningful games for more weeks for a greater variety of schools than I’ve seen in my five decades of following the college version of the sport.

IU in the playoff is just so goddamn fun. Happy for them.

I agree, in general. But, the season is going to go on soooo long. I wish they would eliminate the conference championship games and start the playoff games a week sooner. If Texas or Penn State get to the championship game, it will be their 17th of the season.

[HaulCitgo]

I don't think Georgia agrees. Those kind of things change the way you approach next year. They went for it and damn near lost their top two QBs. Same for Alabama. Enjoy NW Missouri at Tuscaloosa in 2029. Give it a few and it will get plenty watered down

[degenerasian]

I am still cackling over all the people that argued expanding the playoffs to 12 would render the regular season less meaningful or special. Easily the most compelling set of meaningful games for more weeks for a greater variety of schools than I’ve seen in my five decades of following the college version of the sport.

IU in the playoff is just so goddamn fun. Happy for them.

While true, this is the season the old BCS system would have been fine. No one would argue a Oregon-Georgia championship game.

[Brontoburglar]

the scheduling talk is all bluster. home-and-home series vs. power conference programs make significantly more money and also don't solve for the "losing conference games" portion of the argument that hurt Alabama, Ole Miss, South Carolina, etc.

SMU's non-conference schedule turned out to be stronger than Alabama's this season

[A_B]

I don't think Georgia agrees. Those kind of things change the way you approach next year. Same for Alabama. Changes scheduling. Give it a few and it will get plenty watered down

I think it could go the other way and you'll see teams add stronger opponents since losing one game doesn't doom you anymore. Especially if it's a big conference team and you aren't Miami.

And Alabama's SD should shut the fuck up. You don't get to run roughshod and get all the breaks and win all the coin flip decisions for playoff berths then complain the first year after your once in a generation coach leaves when you lost three games. Suck it up, play better and don't lose to Vandy. Pretty basic stuff!

[HaulCitgo]

We shall see. Im with you on the cash but if I'm in the sec I'm not going to play anyone else. Any out of conference losses is a killer for a 6-2 team not named Alabama

[tennbengal]

I am still cackling over all the people that argued expanding the playoffs to 12 would render the regular season less meaningful or special. Easily the most compelling set of meaningful games for more weeks for a greater variety of schools than I’ve seen in my five decades of following the college version of the sport.

IU in the playoff is just so goddamn fun. Happy for them.

While true, this is the season the old BCS system would have been fine. No one would argue a Oregon-Georgia championship game.

It. Is. More. Fun. This. Way.

[Shirley]

I am still cackling over all the people that argued expanding the playoffs to 12 would render the regular season less meaningful or special. Easily the most compelling set of meaningful games for more weeks for a greater variety of schools than I’ve seen in my five decades of following the college version of the sport.

IU in the playoff is just so goddamn fun. Happy for them.

While true, this is the season the old BCS system would have been fine. No one would argue a Oregon-Georgia championship game.

It. Is. More. Fun. This. Way.

No doubt. And it was always obvious to most that it would be.

[testuser2]

Tickets for PSU/SMU are reasonable, but I expect the stadium to be relatively empty. It's after final exams and most students are gone. Graduation is the following day. Hotel prices are obscene. $1K+/night with a 2 night minimum if there are any available. Single family homes in our neighborhood are $2K/night.

Add in that flying here is impossible. So you will spend $5-10K easily to sit on a bleacher in 30 degrees.

Has anyone seen the ticket revenue split? How much do the host schools receive?