Random Politics

[DSafetyGuy]

He's the best.

[Jerloma]

Yeah, that was awesome.

[Jerloma]

I know that people tell you to call your house representative and that the more calls they get is supposed to put pressure on them but for anyone that actually does this, how does it work exactly? So, I talk to some staffer and say "The president is allowing a civilian that has strong business ties to Russia and China access to my most private information from the Treasury, IRS, and SSA and that seems very illegal. What is my representative going to do about it?"

Like, will they actually have a conversation with you over it or just give a canned answer and record your inquiry?

[govmentchedda]

Go to 5calls.org and they make it super easy for you.

[Jerloma]

That's great stuff, thanks!

[Steve of phpBB]

I know that people tell you to call your house representative and that the more calls they get is supposed to put pressure on them but for anyone that actually does this, how does it work exactly? So, I talk to some staffer and say "The president is allowing a civilian that has strong business ties to Russia and China access to my most private information from the Treasury, IRS, and SSA and that seems very illegal. What is my representative going to do about it?"

Like, will they actually have a conversation with you over it or just give a canned answer and record your inquiry?

It varies, but even if it's a conversation, I doubt it would be very long.

[The Sybian]

I know that people tell you to call your house representative and that the more calls they get is supposed to put pressure on them but for anyone that actually does this, how does it work exactly? So, I talk to some staffer and say "The president is allowing a civilian that has strong business ties to Russia and China access to my most private information from the Treasury, IRS, and SSA and that seems very illegal. What is my representative going to do about it?"

Like, will they actually have a conversation with you over it or just give a canned answer and record your inquiry?

I typed a long, angry message to my Representative through his website during the 2014 midterms as he was joining in on the "Obama is going to destroy America by letting in Ebola" craze. I wrote it to vent and assumed I was typing into a void. Within a couple of days he called me! We talked for about 45. He acted like he cared about my opinion. My written submission inflated my expertise as a former attorney for Customs and Border Protection and he was very deferential there. He listened while I told him all of the reasons the Ebola threat was a scare mongering tactic and a dirty trick by the GOP to scare voters. He told me he had a meeting with the CDC in a couple of days, and he would have a better idea of whether it was truly a threat.

Did I change his mind at all? No, I think he knew I was right before we spoke, but he was trying to make a name for himself and get on FoxNews more often. I respect him for giving me the time and at least pretending to care. Still not sure what was in it for him. He (Leonard Lance) started as a moderate, sensible Republican but I think he had bigger aspirations than representing suburban Central Jersey in the House. When Trump was running in the primaries, he was anti-Trump, but when Trump was the nominee, he went full MAGA and started fellating Trump regularly on FoxNews. Spineless, self-promoting twerp.

[The Sybian]

Some good news out of Germany, it looks like a Left Wing coalition will control the government. I’d seen some predictions that the Neo-Nazi AfD (Alternative for Germany) party was expected to make a much stronger push. Musk was rallying for AfD, because a racist, fascist party taking power in Germany can’t go wrong. According to the NYTimes, the strong showing from two parties in the Left was a direct result of fears sparked by Trump, especially his siding with Putin on the invasion of Ukraine.

[rass]

The photo here...

[rass]

Really unfortunate that these sexual harassers can’t get a job anywhere other than in politics. Feels like society has failed them.

[P.D.X.]

“What an incredible turnout. It’s very exciting to be back in Laramie, Wyoming, where I went to school. What I would like you to do is, I see a lot of signs around, and I understand what you’re trying to say. I get it. I can read them,” Hageman said before she was interrupted.

“Fuck you! That’s what we’re saying,” someone in the crowd hollered.

From there, the room remained at a rolling boil.

At several points, the crowd broke out into chants, including “tax the rich” and “do your job.”

Man, when you lose Laramie...

https://wyofile.com/crowd-jeers-hageman ... ysterical/

[Nonlinear FC]

Really unfortunate that these sexual harassers can’t get a job anywhere other than in politics. Feels like society has failed them.

If you listen to New Orleans Unsolved... The Venn diagram with KKK members, the Catholic Church and pedophiles is stunning. I know this has nothing to do with you post, but there's really something to the whole "telling on themselves" that the GOP mouthbreathers have been so revved up on this issue of late...



Just sayin'.

[rass]

Really unfortunate that these sexual harassers can’t get a job anywhere other than in politics. Feels like society has failed them.

If you listen to New Orleans Unsolved... The Venn diagram with KKK members, the Catholic Church and pedophiles is stunning. I know this has nothing to do with you post, but there's really something to the whole "telling on themselves" that the GOP mouthbreathers have been so revved up on this issue of late...



Just sayin'.

I was totally talking about a certain NY Dem running for mayor of NYC but I got you.

[Steve of phpBB]

Is it safe to book the Wisconsin Supreme Court election as a win?

[cerranoredux]

Is it safe to book the Wisconsin Supreme Court election as a win?

Dave Wasserman has seen enough. Called in under an hour. Fuck Elon.

[Steve of phpBB]

Is it safe to book the Wisconsin Supreme Court election as a win?

Dave Wasserman has seen enough. Called in under an hour. Fuck Elon.

The final margin was 55-45. And the R in Matt Gaetz’s district, the reddest one in Florida, only got 57%.

Though I suppose this will prompt the MAGAs to get even more insane.

[DaveInSeattle]

Way to make an election completely about the most unpopular person in the country.



And spend $25million to make a spectacle of yourself. Good work...no notes.

[mister d]

Has he responded yet or can we [redacted]?

[cerranoredux]

Is it safe to book the Wisconsin Supreme Court election as a win?

Dave Wasserman has seen enough. Called in under an hour. Fuck Elon.

The final margin was 55-45. And the R in Matt Gaetz’s district, the reddest one in Florida, only got 57%.

Though I suppose this will prompt the MAGAs to get even more insane.

Yup. Like declaring an emergency and suspending elections if results like this continue. They’re governing like they aren’t running for anything. And I think it’s because they really aren’t.

[mister d]

Right, this is a win in the sense that it shows a public shift, but its just a different court to be ignored if they so choose.

[Steve of phpBB]

They're not going to cancel the fucking elections. Too many white people with money would object.

In that respect, this is not 1933 Germany, where democracy had only been around for 15 years.

The Republicans will do what they can to cheat. But there will be elections.

[mister d]

Its been a quarter century since they effectively subverted an election. Five years since an unpunished attempt to physically stop certification. I wouldn't have anything near your level of confidence.

[cerranoredux]

They're not going to cancel the fucking elections. Too many white people with money would object.

In that respect, this is not 1933 Germany, where democracy had only been around for 15 years.

The Republicans will do what they can to cheat. But there will be elections.

Aren’t you the guy who said they weren’t gonna storm the Capitol?

[cerranoredux]

They're not going to cancel the fucking elections. Too many white people with money would object.

Like the law firm Trump targeted with his executive order. Like Columbia, Harvard, what have you. Really got a lot of fairh in white people with $, you guys.

[Steve of phpBB]

They're not going to cancel the fucking elections. Too many white people with money would object.

In that respect, this is not 1933 Germany, where democracy had only been around for 15 years.

The Republicans will do what they can to cheat. But there will be elections.

Aren’t you the guy who said they weren’t gonna storm the Capitol?

I'm the guy who said that if Trump lost, he would not remain in office beyond his term. In response to Mr. D's concern that Trump would just refuse to leave.

Because there was nothing anyone could do to stop the transfer of power. Even storming the Capitol (or DOJ) wouldn't stop Biden from being sworn in on 1-20-21.

[A_B]

When they figure out their Harvard degrees AND portfolios are being devalued they'll turn on him. Still in the useful idiot stage.

[cerranoredux]

They're not going to cancel the fucking elections. Too many white people with money would object.

In that respect, this is not 1933 Germany, where democracy had only been around for 15 years.

The Republicans will do what they can to cheat. But there will be elections.

Aren’t you the guy who said they weren’t gonna storm the Capitol?

I'm the guy who said that if Trump lost, he would not remain in office beyond his term. In response to Mr. D's concern that Trump would just refuse to leave.

Because there was nothing anyone could do to stop the transfer of power. Even storming the Capitol (or DOJ) wouldn't stop Biden from being sworn in on 1-20-21.

I’m pretty sure you said, and I quote, “what are they gonna do, storm the Capitol?”

And to your second point: They’ve had 4 years to work on the plan after the trial run in 2021. They tried it once. They will try it again and they will be better at it.

Why do you think they won’t try all of it?

[rass]

They're not going to cancel the fucking elections. Too many white people with money would object.

In that respect, this is not 1933 Germany, where democracy had only been around for 15 years.

The Republicans will do what they can to cheat. But there will be elections.

Aren’t you the guy who said they weren’t gonna storm the Capitol?

I'm the guy who said that if Trump lost, he would not remain in office beyond his term. In response to Mr. D's concern that Trump would just refuse to leave.

Because there was nothing anyone could do to stop the transfer of power. Even storming the Capitol (or DOJ) wouldn't stop Biden from being sworn in on 1-20-21.

I’m pretty sure you said, and I quote, “what are they gonna do, storm the Capitol?”

And to your second point: They’ve had 4 years to work on the plan after the trial run in 2021. They tried it once. They will try it again and they will be better at it.

Why do you think they won’t try all of it?

"congress"

And sorry steve, but I gotta respect cerrano's game here.

[Steve of phpBB]

They're not going to cancel the fucking elections. Too many white people with money would object.

In that respect, this is not 1933 Germany, where democracy had only been around for 15 years.

The Republicans will do what they can to cheat. But there will be elections.

Aren’t you the guy who said they weren’t gonna storm the Capitol?

I'm the guy who said that if Trump lost, he would not remain in office beyond his term. In response to Mr. D's concern that Trump would just refuse to leave.

Because there was nothing anyone could do to stop the transfer of power. Even storming the Capitol (or DOJ) wouldn't stop Biden from being sworn in on 1-20-21.

I’m pretty sure you said, and I quote, “what are they gonna do, storm the Capitol?”

And to your second point: They’ve had 4 years to work on the plan after the trial run in 2021. They tried it once. They will try it again and they will be better at it.

Why do you think they won’t try all of it?

"congress"

And sorry steve, but I gotta respect cerrano's game here.

Oh, the quote is real. It was Mr. D's signature for quite a long time. But that was my point - as you can see from the entire discussion that preceded and followed that quote. There was nothing Trump could do to stop the transfer of power if he lost.

And it turned out I was right. As opposed to the people saying "He'll simply deny their validity, the Republicans will back him and there will eventually be a proper legal appeal."

To be clear, I have no doubt that if the next election is close, the Rs will try all kinds of fuckery at the legislative and judicial level. And they will have a better chance of succeeding than they did in 2020.

That was my point when I said that the Rs will cheat but there will be elections.

[mister d]

Voting will take place. That's as far as I'll go with anything resembling certainty.

[rass]

They're not going to cancel the fucking elections. Too many white people with money would object.

In that respect, this is not 1933 Germany, where democracy had only been around for 15 years.

The Republicans will do what they can to cheat. But there will be elections.

Aren’t you the guy who said they weren’t gonna storm the Capitol?

I'm the guy who said that if Trump lost, he would not remain in office beyond his term. In response to Mr. D's concern that Trump would just refuse to leave.

Because there was nothing anyone could do to stop the transfer of power. Even storming the Capitol (or DOJ) wouldn't stop Biden from being sworn in on 1-20-21.

I’m pretty sure you said, and I quote, “what are they gonna do, storm the Capitol?”

And to your second point: They’ve had 4 years to work on the plan after the trial run in 2021. They tried it once. They will try it again and they will be better at it.

Why do you think they won’t try all of it?

"congress"

And sorry steve, but I gotta respect cerrano's game here.

Oh, the quote is real. It was Mr. D's signature for quite a long time. But that was my point - as you can see from the entire discussion that preceded and followed that quote. There was nothing Trump could do to stop the transfer of power if he lost.

And it turned out I was right. As opposed to the people saying "He'll simply deny their validity, the Republicans will back him and there will eventually be a proper legal appeal."

But he did deny their validity and the Rs did back him, and you can squint and see him running and winning last year "a proper legal appeal" from the other side.

[cerranoredux]

Voting will take place. That's as far as I'll go with anything resembling certainty.

Here’s my thinking. If NJ and VA go Dem in ‘25, and there are a few other statewide elections that go D before the midterms, you think they’re gonna set fire to the Reichstag after they lost it in ‘26? Maybe that is the plan so that they can claim the Congress is completely corrupted, but either way, I’d be more surprised if I got to vote in ‘28 than if i didn’t.

[mister d]

I’m not saying they’d be counted legitimately, just that some level of sham election would be the floor.

[mister d]

I don't use the term "rube", but its the only one that truly describes how I feel sending in my 2024 federal tax payment.

[Steve of phpBB]

I don't use the term "rube", but its the only one that truly describes how I feel sending in my 2024 federal tax payment.

Right? Ugh.

[The Sybian]

I don't use the term "rube", but its the only one that truly describes how I feel sending in my 2024 federal tax payment.

Yeah, no shit.

[A_B]

I don't use the term "rube", but its the only one that truly describes how I feel sending in my 2024 federal tax payment.

Yeah, no shit.

Yup. Glad my old bosses did better in 2024 though.

[rass]

The photos of Whitmer hiding her face in the Oval Office are pretty incredible

[DSafetyGuy]

Not very often you get to see someone realize their future is over the exact moment it happens.

She may end up continuing as Michigan's governor after the 2026 election, but that was pretty much self-immolation of any aspirations.

[The Sybian]

Not very often you get to see someone realize their future is over the exact moment it happens.

She may end up continuing as Michigan's governor after the 2026 election, but that was pretty much self-immolation of any aspirations.

OTOH, there are 25 scandals every week in this administration, and nothing sticks for more than a week. Will any remember or care in 2028?