NFL Offseason/Draft 2025

[sancarlos]

I feel bad for Shadeur. But much less so now that I learn Trump is advocating for him.

[Rex]

We’re getting to the “what is there to lose” portion of the draft wrt Shedeur. Like are the Panthers that comfortable with 2 good months of Bryce Young?

[degenerasian]

We’re getting to the “what is there to lose” portion of the draft wrt Shedeur. Like are the Panthers that comfortable with 2 good months of Bryce Young?

Thought the Raiders would taken him with one of those back to back picks.

If the doesn't get picked tomorrow. The Calgary Stampeders have the first pick on Tuesday.

[mister d]

Is there another non-conspiracy option besides “this kid is such a dick, we can’t have him as a non-starter in the QB room”?

[sancarlos]

Is there another non-conspiracy option besides “this kid is such a dick, we can’t have him as a non-starter in the QB room”?

You’ve got it. That and, “we hate his father, and don’t want his influence.”

[Rex]

Do they even announce picks live from the stage on day 3? Will the commish trot out there or will it be some intern who gets to read the name?

[Ryan]

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Do they even announce picks live from the stage on day 3? Will the commish trot out there or will it be some intern who gets to read the name?

Bronny James

[rass]

Purposely not bumping the Jerry is Crazy thread because “NFL owner calls his players ‘woke’” could go so much worse

[Rex]

Roger needs to make some phone calls here and force someone to draft him early today, in exchange for some favors down the road.

Obvious choice is Dallas, who actually does have a need for a backup better than Andy Dalton or Cooper Rush. And it would be the perfect branding moment, and no team is better equipped to handle the soap opera, and when Roger pays back the favor nobody will bat an eye. Only two problems. First, Jerry Jones is actually a very smart drafter and second, Dallas has no fourth round pick, so they’d have to give up something.

Who then? There’s plenty of favors the league could hand out to Jacksonville, who wouldn’t even need to trade up, but would need some assistance in unloading the Trevor Lawrence contract. That one makes sense.

Kansas City? They don’t pick until late in the round, but maybe they would be game in exchange for a few more calls.

I think if I’m Roger, my first call is the Giants. They caused this mess, and if you promise to never put them on Hard Knocks again, they might bite.

Been thinking about this too much this morning.

[Ryan]

How about the team that plays an Uber away from his college with a coach that thinks everyone that passed on him is stupid and is friends with his dad.

[DSafetyGuy]

This coming season will be the fifth year in a row that the Eagles and Chiefs will play a game with significance.

That’s a nice touch with the Rams having their war room at the LAFD rescue headquarters, btw.

I didn't have the audio up, but when I saw a shot of the Rams set-up identified as Van Nuys by an on-screen graphic, I thought they had rented a hangar at the Van Nuys airport to throw a draft party for responders.

[Rex]

Do they even announce picks live from the stage on day 3? Will the commish trot out there or will it be some intern who gets to read the name?

The answer is they are doing an international theme to announce the picks today (maybe just this round). Someone in Luxembourg is going to get to read the name.

[brian]

Struggling to figure out why JAX would want to replace Lawrence with Sanders, money disparity aside. Lawrence has shown he can be a very good NFL QB with some weapons around him.

[sancarlos]

Cleveland. Good spot for him. About 100 picks later than in most mock drafts. And 50 picks after the Browns selected Dillon Gabriel.

[brian]

Keeps the Johnny Football parallels on point.

[brian]

Kind of a feel good story for the Lions 3rd round pick (Issac TeSlaa) who grew up a Lions fan and has already won more championships at Ford Field than any other Lions (a HS state title)

(Though I’m wondering if Hutchinson’s HS won a state title when he was there. I’m not gonna look it up.)

[Nonlinear FC]

Is there another non-conspiracy option besides “this kid is such a dick, we can’t have him as a non-starter in the QB room”?

You’ve got it. That and, “we hate his father, and don’t want his influence.”

But the fifth round is definitely looking more like "This is a league that literally black-balled a SB-caliber starting QB because he kneeled" level of collusion. IMO.

[EdRomero]

the ESPN talking heads looooove Sanders. Mel Kiper is about to have a stroke ranting about how the NFL doesn't know anything about QBs using the wonderful evidence of pointing out Brady getting picked in the 6th and Boomer Esasison in the 2nd. Guess he forgot about the 100s of failed QBs taken late which he called a steal of the draft for the 20 years. Back to Sanders, I don't get the drop unless there is something being unreported.

[EdRomero]

Is there another non-conspiracy option besides “this kid is such a dick, we can’t have him as a non-starter in the QB room”?

You’ve got it. That and, “we hate his father, and don’t want his influence.”

But the fifth round is definitely looking more like "This is a league that literally black-balled a SB-caliber starting QB because he kneeled" level of collusion. IMO.

I thought Deion was pretty popular among his peers and teammates when he played and they're basically the front office people now.

[Shirley]

the ESPN talking heads looooove Sanders. Mel Kiper is about to have a stroke ranting about how the NFL doesn't know anything about QBs using the wonderful evidence of pointing out Brady getting picked in the 6th and Boomer Esasison in the 2nd. Guess he forgot about the 100s of failed QBs taken late which he called a steal of the draft for the 20 years. Back to Sanders, I don't get the drop unless there is something being unreported.

The simple explanation is that no team thinks he's an NFL starter, and nobody is willing to have him and the circus around him as a backup. The only way it might work is if he went to a team with an unchallengeable starter like Buffalo, Balt, KC, etc. It'll be a shitshow in Cleveland, and I love it.

[Nonlinear FC]

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying the 5th round for a guy who helped turn a moribund program into at least respectable and led the entire college football landscape in passing efficiency, playing decent to high-level competition all year.

I do not buy that Deion had anything to do with this drop. Deion was well-liked and respected by every team he played for, including the Braves. Dude worked extremely hard and was a very good locker room guy. The idea that Deion was going to come in and micromanage a QB in an NFL locker room is absolutely ridiculous. He's the head coach of a D1 program, he literally doesn't have time for that level of nonsense.

To me, Shadeur likely had some shitty interviews that put some question remarks out there. And he was over-rated due to the typical pre-draft "This team needs XX and therefore this guy is going to go high because of that" misreading and hype that happens every year.

But that's gonna have him drop to the 2nd or 3rd... The fifth round is pretty ridiculous.

They are making an example of a guy who was the poster child for NIL changing the dynamics of college football and, by extension, the power dynamics of when they come into the league. He was cocky and had leveraged his NIL to become the guy with the cards at Colorado.

The owners are sending a message out of fear of not being in complete control of the power dynamics.

[Nonlinear FC]

Just to add:

1) I never really liked Deion as a pro and I did not like the way he treated the existing rostered players when he showed up in Boulder. I'm by no means a Deion apologist, far from it.

2) Mel Kiper is fucking moron that says easily disprovable shit EVERY YEAR and yet we've been saddled with his nonsense for decades. He lives in the some fucking condo with Berman and Vitale as "icons" that the vast majority of those watching would love to jettison into the stratosphere.

I don't watch the draft because I find the exercise a massive time suck. But when I do drop in to check on things, the minute they flip over to him, I'm out.

[sancarlos]

Of course drafting players is a wildly inexact science. It will be very interesting to see how all the quarterbacks taken ahead of Sanders do at their respective teams, relative to how Sanders does.

[DSafetyGuy]

I do not buy that Deion had anything to do with this drop. Deion was well-liked and respected by every team he played for, including the Braves. Dude worked extremely hard and was a very good locker room guy. The idea that Deion was going to come in and micromanage a QB in an NFL locker room is absolutely ridiculous. He's the head coach of a D1 program, he literally doesn't have time for that level of nonsense.

From Super Bowl media row: Deion Sanders says 'there's a lot of teams' he wouldn't want Shedeur to play for, details how he'll handle it.

Did you know Deion also co-hosts a talk show while the head coach of a D1 program?

[sancarlos]

I do not buy that Deion had anything to do with this drop. Deion was well-liked and respected by every team he played for, including the Braves. Dude worked extremely hard and was a very good locker room guy. The idea that Deion was going to come in and micromanage a QB in an NFL locker room is absolutely ridiculous. He's the head coach of a D1 program, he literally doesn't have time for that level of nonsense.

From Super Bowl media row: Deion Sanders says 'there's a lot of teams' he wouldn't want Shedeur to play for, details how he'll handle it.

Did you know Deion also co-hosts a talk show while the head coach of a D1 program?

That’s an old story. Deion later walked back the comments. And lots of coaches have radio shows.
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[EdRomero]

I do not buy that Deion had anything to do with this drop. Deion was well-liked and respected by every team he played for, including the Braves. Dude worked extremely hard and was a very good locker room guy. The idea that Deion was going to come in and micromanage a QB in an NFL locker room is absolutely ridiculous. He's the head coach of a D1 program, he literally doesn't have time for that level of nonsense.

From Super Bowl media row: Deion Sanders says 'there's a lot of teams' he wouldn't want Shedeur to play for, details how he'll handle it.

Did you know Deion also co-hosts a talk show while the head coach of a D1 program?

How are the threats different than Arch Manning's? Eli was a better prospect, but not by 4 rounds, at least according to most draft pundits.

[Rex]

I don’t know what kind of name Skattebo is, but it’s about to become Italian

[rass]

I don’t know what kind of name Skattebo is, but it’s about to become Italian

I bet a celebrity sandwich is already on the menu at more than one Toms River deli

[Rex]

I think I have a good feel for what the goombahs are going to like and Skattebo is it.

[rass]

Someone anyone do a deep dive on Donte Kent - GO!

[brian]

Lions drafted the first Egyptian player in NFL history.

[L-Jam3]

Amon-Ra might have something to say about that.

[sancarlos]

Noticed that the Ravens drafted a kicker. I assume it was also noticed by alleged sex pest Justin Tucker. Oh, and by the way…

[GoodKarma]

I thought Deion was pretty popular among his peers and teammates when he played and they're basically the front office people now.

It's (allegedly) this. The story (one of, at least) is that Shedeur was over-hyped because Deion is friends with everyone in team offices and the media since he worked for NFL Network and CBS. Everyone was afraid to criticize him (Shedeur). Yes, he was part of a group that turn around a shitty program but the talent level everywhere was improved. Even with the talent 4-8 then 9-4 with an Alamo bowl win is hardly evidence of 1st round talent.

That being said, please put the Browns on Hard Knocks this season.

[brian]

Amon-Ra might have something to say about that.

Haha. 5 comedy points.

[Rex]

Hey what about Cairo Santos?

[Gunpowder]

Coincidentally, I saw Tyler Shough of Louisville play at Stanford in November. He was not impressive.

It is baffling to me that he went that high

[Gunpowder]

Some QB from Louisville I’ve never heard of was picked before Shaduer Sanders and I am fucking here for it.

He must’ve really shit the bed in those interviews.

Coincidentally, I saw Tyler Shough of Louisville play at Stanford in November. He was not impressive.

Teams will accept prima donna behavior at almost any position other than QB. Which makes some sense.

They will accept it from anyone, if they are good enough.

Shedeur Sanders was never good enough to act the way he does. He still plays like he's at Jackson State.

[Gunpowder]

Is there another non-conspiracy option besides “this kid is such a dick, we can’t have him as a non-starter in the QB room”?

I thought going in that he was a round 3-ish type of talent. After Dillon Gabriel went ahead of him, that seems to be when it got personal.

People are freaking out about Milroe going ahead of him....Milroe is unlikely to hit but if he does he has legit MVP potential. I don't see that in Sanders. He's like an even more skittish Kenny Pickett, so he'll fit in well.

[Gunpowder]

Good thing nothing more important is going on...