The Swamp

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It’s funny to me that Bernie’s campaign strategy is being criticized when he’s in much better shape now than he was at the same stage in 2016. He needs like 54% of the remaining pledged delegates to win outright. That’ll be challenging for sure. But it’s not a bad position to be in when many of the...

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You guys think the letter is too long? She did raise millions worth of your money and time. They shouldn't be short-changed on an explanation. It's not so much that the letter is too long. It's that the length of the letter reveals a political approach that the masses will tune out. (Or, did tune o...

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I have laid in extra dog food and about a week's worth of groceries (box pasta, canned goods, peanut butter). Need to get some more dog food and another week or two of food set aside. My bigger worry is not knowing where that stuff comes from and the apparent shortage of shipping containers in the ...

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When I voted on Tuesday at the elementary school down the street, a mom came up to me. She said she has two small children, and they have a nightly ritual. After the kids have brushed teeth and read books and gotten that last sip of water and done all the other bedtime routines, they do one last th...

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tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:38 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:30 pm (Which one was Rita?)
the NY socialite who Larry abandons (I guess) before they are due to cross the tunnel out of Manhattan.

Ah, yes. I agree.

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tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:26 pm The surge in cases in Italy is somewhat alarming given how slow this country was to respond to this and make testing available. I am guessing more clusters like the one around Seattle are about to crop up.

Isn't there one in New York too? Or is that more spread out?

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(Which one was Rita?)

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Warren's message to campaign volunteers: Steve, I’m going to start with the news. I wanted you to hear it straight from me: today, I’m suspending our campaign for president. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for everything you have poured into this campaign. I know that when we set out, this wa...

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I never realized before this how often I touch my face. It's insane. Like probably 100 times an hour. Am I obsessed with my own face? This might be a good topic for therapy. Yeah, me too. Luckily I live like a hermit, so I'm not particularly worried about either picking up the virus or transmitting...

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Has Bloomberg said he'd rather see Trump win than Sanders? Have healthcare executives said they prioritize profits over lives? So, that's a no? Correct, these are both a no which means we have to just assume the best. Well, okay. Except that with healthcare executives and doctors and drug makers an...

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mister d wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:02 am
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:57 amHas Bloomberg said he'd rather see Trump win than Sanders?
Have healthcare executives said they prioritize profits over lives?

So, that's a no?

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mister d wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:58 am If Sanders defeats Trump aided by Bloomberg's unlimited resources, I'll let you have one (1) of my limbs. Your choice.

Has Bloomberg said he'd rather see Trump win than Sanders?

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mister d wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:53 am Its also not true. If its head to head Sanders versus Trump, does anyone believe Bloomberg would do anything but try to run 3rd party spoiler?

Perhaps.

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tennbengal wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:10 am I confess...I didn't get what Bloomberg was getting at.

I assume it’s If you strike me down, I’ll come back even more powerful. (By whispering “Use the Force,” I guess.)

Hasn’t Bloomberg announced he’ll keep spending to help defeat Trump?

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That's fantastic, Frank.

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From the other thread .. Hey Johnnie, what the heck is living in Saudi Arabia like? A place I know nothing about. Can you go out much? Are you near a city, desert or beach? Have you found real beer? Well, in short, it's a bare base deployed location. Honestly, I could be anywhere and it would look ...

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Can I start to freak out yet? https://twitter.com/aspseattle37/status/1235026317914959872?s=20 I think we're all primed for a freak out. Does the virus actually travel though? I thought it was person to person. And I don't actually get any packages from Amazon sent from Seattle. So I think I'm good...

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It just hit me how infuriating it'll be tonight hearing folks talk about which candidates "won" various states when winning states is completely fucking irrelevant in the Democratic primary.

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mister d wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:46 pm Oh, I think he's prepared ...

So a public option would expand health insurance coverage to 97% of the country? What a terrible idea.

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What would be the State's role in M4A? I ask because even though 'Canadian' health care is often mentioned, it is run by the provinces using federal money. In some cases, BC and Manitoba, charge healthcare premiums. Like what if you give Alabama healthcare money and they just pocket it? One of the ...

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What would be the State's role in M4A? I ask because even though 'Canadian' health care is often mentioned, it is run by the provinces using federal money. In some cases, BC and Manitoba, charge healthcare premiums. Like what if you give Alabama healthcare money and they just pocket it? One of the ...

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What would be the State's role in M4A? I ask because even though 'Canadian' health care is often mentioned, it is run by the provinces using federal money. In some cases, BC and Manitoba, charge healthcare premiums. Like what if you give Alabama healthcare money and they just pocket it? I'm pretty ...

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There would obviously be employer side taxes and far more punitive taxes on the higher earners. If you take that plan and assume $5K out of pocket for a family, you need to make over $150K before you see a loss. At $250K, its only a loss of $4K, and that's not even a true loss, its basically insura...

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That's only if employers stop paying anything. SIngle payer isn't the same as Medicare for All, right? Am i just arguing semantics? I know if my employer stops paying for my healthcare and wife and kids, it's a LOT off the top (I get a statement each year and have to put how much they pay for premi...

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There would obviously be employer side taxes and far more punitive taxes on the higher earners. If you take that plan and assume $5K out of pocket for a family, you need to make over $150K before you see a loss. At $250K, its only a loss of $4K, and that's not even a true loss, its basically insura...

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mister d wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:37 pm $60,000 * 0.04 = $2,400
$2,400 / 12 = $200 per month

Got it. I think the tax would actually only be half that, since the first $29K isn't taxed. So it's only $1200 per year.

If that were the only tax increase needed to fund Medicare 4 All, it'd be a no-brainer.

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mister d wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:29 pm So the only way that $60K family is losing here is if they pay less than $200 per month with zero co-pays or out of pocket expenses.

I'm not disagreeing (I'm sure you're right) - but can you explain the math?

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Are you talking about people whose employers pay 100% of their insurance? Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that at all the norm here. "Salary plus benefits" just means they offer health care, not that they fully cover it. That's a good point. I keep extrapolating from my firm's practice...

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Are you talking about people whose employers pay 100% of their insurance? Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that at all the norm here. "Salary plus benefits" just means they offer health care, not that they fully cover it. That's a good point. I keep extrapolating from my firm's practice...

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Steve, does your "everyone over the median of $60K" currently pay for healthcare? Define "pay". Their employers pay. But it doesn't get taken out of their salary. Someone who is paid "$65,000 per year plus benefits" doesn't really "pay" for health insurance e...

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Sanders increased tax proposals don't start anywhere near $60K. I was referring to something earlier in the thread. But Sanders' proposals will clearly require tax increases on people other than those making $200K per year. We went through the math a couple of weeks ago. Forty percent of households...

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These people are the ones that voted for Trump in 2016. Don't tell me that they voted for Hillary. No way. All they care about is lining their pockets with more money. They have no other issues they care about. Sure there are a handful of Republicans that abhor abortion and that is their only issue...

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Sanders increased tax proposals don't start anywhere near $60K. I was referring to something earlier in the thread. But Sanders' proposals will clearly require tax increases on people other than those making $200K per year. We went through the math a couple of weeks ago. Forty percent of households...

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Wasn't he one of the folks who would talk about how hard it was to listen to the voices of women politicians like Clinton?

Because one thing I found over the past couple of years - I just can't stand the sound of Matthews' voice or his whole "wise detached political guy" persona.

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"I can't stand Trump but Bernie is going to take every dollar over 29,000 I make and tax it at 52%" So maybe the same party shouldn't (and functionally doesn't) represent that person and the minimum wage worker who knows they need to work 80 hours per week, 50 out of 52 weeks in the year,...

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Those are Republicans that won't everyone to believe they have a heart by donating 100$ to the Humane Society not realizing the money is going to drugs to euthanize the animals in the shelter. But it was a good deed, so it out weighs their desire to accumulate as much wealth as possible just so the...

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That’s not pro-Biden, it’s pick anyone else besides Trump, which includes a world of people who aren’t Biden and don’t have Biden’s baggage. And Christ alfuckingmighty google “Biden DuPont” before leading with pollution controls. Believe me, if I could, I would. We are left with who we are left wit...

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Remember “but her emails!!”? Multiply that by 10 with all the Hunter Biden scandals if Joe is the nominee. How is having a son who traded on his name anything close to the email scandal? Hillary kept government emails on a server within her own private control, and she was already seen as dirty bec...

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Steve, you don't see where attempting to replace the pro-corporate, bad-with-women liar and his grifter children with a pro-corporate, bad-with-women liar and his grifter child might be an issue, even if we can agree its to lesser degrees? That would be a problem. But Jesus Fucking Christ. How anyo...

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